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Regular Dakkanaut



Philadelphia, PA

If you want to skip the background information, I've included a short summary of what I need help with at the bottom of this post.

A while back, I made this thread, to help me get the basis for my Pathfinder character. The game I'm playing in is one in which we were allowed to start with monstrous races (custom PC-friendly versions) and it's low-item because the GM is giving us awesome templates as the game progresses. We're also evil, though that wasn't intentional, it's just sort of the way the chips fell. We're becoming more and more monstrous (both emotionally and physically) as the campaign progresses. Anyway, my character started off as a harpy that dressed like the guys from Brotherhood of the Wolf, but since then he died and was raised as a cold rider, etc., etc. So, this is going to sound silly, but now he looks like one of the Brotherhood of the Wolf guys, with blue skin, skeletal wings, a cape made of tiny points of light, stag antlers piercing through his tri-corn hat, full plate armour and a glaive both made entirely of ice, and a zombie woolly rhino mount. I know it sounds stupid, but I also know it can be made to look cool. It's just an ambitious project.

Where I am with it:

  • I bought this miniature and I've done some sculpting to raise his collar and give him a glaive

  • I took a WHFB rhinox, made him look a little more rhino-like and sculpted a saddle for him

  • I need to find skeletal wings for him, the main problem being that they were bird wings before he died, and most skeletal wings I've been able to find look bat-like. Any recommendations on skeletal bird-like wings that would be to scale with this miniature?

  • I need stag horns. I had some WHFB dryad bits and thought about using some of the leftover branches, but they're just too big for this project. Any other ideas?

  • After I have all that assembled and painted, I need to go over the trench coat and glaive with liquid effects to simulate the icy armour, dry brushing it to look a little frosty.


  • Anyone have recommendations? Bear in mind, that I want no part in using metal components. I'm looking for plastic or resin suggestions exclusively for all of these projects. Since my character'll sometimes be mounted and sometimes not, I'm also making a second version of the mini that can be seated upon the rhino. At the moment, I have some WHFB Empire knight legs, but I'm not 100% sure I like them, so if anyone has any thoughts on seated, mounted legs that would fit this concept, that would be cool too.

    In somewhat unrelated news, I'm trying to put together minis for some of my party members too, and I have a few ideas on how to start those projects, but could use any recommendations people have for miniatures I could use as starting points.

    1) One of them is a two-weapon fighting rogue-like humanoid character who's entirely made of ice and has a giant witch doctor looking mask that goes down to his feet, giving him the benefits of a tower shield without the penalties. For him I was thinking of starting with a Heroclix Iceman figure and chopping up bits to make the mask. The problem is that he, AND all of his equipment, is entirely made of ice, which I'd like to represent with translucent plastic (again, drybrushed frosty). I'm not sure how possible that's going to allow for "chopping up bits" to be. Should I just use liquid effects on iceman, to simulate the mask and weapons?

    2) The other of them is a shambling mound (a walking pile of plant matter), with dozens of tiny spirits made of light swarming throughout her body. Does anyone have experience working LEDs into a mini? Any recommendations? There's actually a decent D&D shambling mound which I could use as a starting point, BUT her character is medium-sized and that's a large-sized mini. I might have to just kit bash some treekin and dryads or something.

    SUMMARY

  • I need skeletal bird wings for a 28mm humanoid

  • I need stag horns for a 28mm humanoid

  • I'd like suggestions on starting points for a 28mm humanoid made entirely of ice and a human-sized 28mm shambling mound (a walking pile of plant matter)

  • I wonder if anyone has experience chopping up translucent plastic and gluing it back together in different shapes. Does it basically just ruin it?

  • I need help with installing LEDs inside a mini
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    Regular Dakkanaut






    Hey, I searched around a bit last night while watching a movie but didn't post since I couldn't put together enough to feel it helpful, but seeing as you've gotten no other replies I figured I'd at least give what little I can.


  • I need skeletal bird wings for a 28mm humanoid


  • This is one of the tough ones, sort of depends on what sort of bird you want the wings from, but even then skeletal wings seem rare (as far as my googlefu is concerned anyway), likely because they'd be fragile as models. For a readymade plastic option to start off with (and cut the skin off so to speak) I'd likely suggest Tyranid Gargoyle wings, they're small enough in size while being somewhat skeletal at least. I think your best bet however, for looks, customization and pose would be to make your own, with a wire armature and putty.

  • I need stag horns for a 28mm humanoid


  • Also a bit difficult, I knew I had some in my bitsbox and dug them up. They're small enough to look good on a 28mm mini but I have no idea where they came from, they were part of a bits swap with a friend. I'd guess WFB, but after looking for them online I can't find anything to indicate what model. Only thing plasticky I can find, staglike, would be the small branches off the Catachan Sentinel sprue. Here as well I think you'd be best off with a small wire armature and putty.

  • I'd like suggestions on starting points for a 28mm humanoid made entirely of ice and a human-sized 28mm shambling mound (a walking pile of plant matter)


  • For the shambling mound I'd reckon a mixture of dryad/treant stuff + putty, as you mentioned. For the ice guy I'm thinking for a transparent version you'd need to make a master model from putty/plasticard and then cast it in clear resin.

  • I wonder if anyone has experience chopping up translucent plastic and gluing it back together in different shapes. Does it basically just ruin it?


  • Glue will likely frost it and shaping (at least sanding/filing) will give a rough surface that won't be all that transparent. Thinking clear resin/water effects would be a better starting point.

  • I need help with installing LEDs inside a mini


  • Here's one tutorial I've bookmarked: Light up that mini

    For your shambling mound you might want to consider experimenting with what's a bit further down in the tutorial, creating multiple lightpoints from one source. You can find proper optical fibre cable online as well.

    Hope that helps at least a bit, feel free to poke me for help with wire armatures if need be.
       
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    Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard





    Redondo Beach

    there is a set of small skeletal wings in the GW Chaos Spawn kit...
    you should be able to bit order them...

    for stag horns, you can cut the off of a Brettonian Knights of the Realm helm...
    one of them has a stag...

    hope that helps...

    cheers
    jah

    Paint like ya got a pair!

    Available for commissions.
     
       
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    Multispectral Nisse




    Luton, UK

    I don't know where you'd get one from but one of Rackham's old Morbid Angel sculpts had these wings:



    Edit: Oops, didn't see the no-metals part. Sorry.

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    Michigan

    The no-metal bit is throwing me on this, otherwise I'd have at least a couple suggestions for stag horns and wings.

       
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    Regular Dakkanaut



    Philadelphia, PA

    Ooh! The bretonnian knight stag horns is a great idea! I forgot about those. Picked one set up out of the bits box at work earlier today, and need to track down a second set for the mounted version of my character.

    I had looked at tyranid gargoyle wings and had been considering them anyway. I have a friend with extra gargoyles so I might give those a go. After doing a little bit more research yesterday, I realized that bird wings don't really look like wings when you reduce them to their bone structure, so I guess I'm going with more bat or dragon-like skeletal wings after all. The chaos spawn wings actually look great too, and I might pick up a few sets on eBay.

    I appreciate the LED tutorial, and I think I've resolved that I'll likely do a custom mold for the guy made of ice. I actually have a mini that looks pretty perfect as the starting point for that character, except it's opaque. So I guess I'll just do some modelling and subsequent molding using that.

    Thanks for all the help, guys! I really appreciate it!
       
     
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