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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 18:10:59
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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this came up in a game when my opponent threw 5 metla bombs at my tervigon in CC. I said he could only through one but is said they weren't grenades and then his friend came over and confirmed that he could through all 5. who was right? how can i prove to him he can only through one per assault if i was right? thank you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 18:14:52
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Melta bombs are grenades. Grenades are give rules that allow them to be used in combat and/or thrown.
The melta bomb can be used in combat, but cannot be thrown.
The restriction of one grenade per unit is for thrown grenades only. Every model equipped with grenades can use them in combat (but only one attack per model).
So 5 models with melta bombs would mean 5 melta bomb attacks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 18:20:07
Subject: Re:Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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I though melta bombs only worked on vehicles...I have no clue then. Will follow this thread as I am curious myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 18:25:28
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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The Hive Mind
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grendel083 wrote:Melta bombs are grenades. Grenades are give rules that allow them to be used in combat and/or thrown.
The melta bomb can be used in combat, but cannot be thrown.
The restriction of one grenade per unit is for thrown grenades only. Every model equipped with grenades can use them in combat (but only one attack per model).
So 5 models with melta bombs would mean 5 melta bomb attacks.
Everything this man said is correct.
What squad has melta bombs though? I thought they were mostly just upgrades on a sergeant type...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 18:25:55
Subject: Re:Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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riverhawks32 wrote:I though melta bombs only worked on vehicles...I have no clue then. Will follow this thread as I am curious myself.
The rules for the grenade itself state what they can be used on. Vehicles and Monstrous Creatures mostly. Automatically Appended Next Post: rigeld2 wrote:What squad has melta bombs though? I thought they were mostly just upgrades on a sergeant type...
Imperial Guard Veteran squads is the first unit I can think of. Part of their Demolision upgrade.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 18:28:58
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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i'm not sure. it was some 5 man elder squad. Dire avengers i think. i know they where troops.
Edit: I think they where firedragons as they has S8 Ap1 gun too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 18:46:22
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Tilter at Windmills
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In the Eldar codex, only Fire Dragons (an Elite unit) have meltabombs.
As was posted above, per the rulebook, you can't throw meltabombs. You can throw frag and krak, but only one guy per squad in a given shooting phase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 18:51:46
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Dark Angels company veterans can each buy melta bombs, as it is effectively a squad of sergeants.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 19:37:22
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Fire Dragons. They are Elites though, not Troops.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 19:55:48
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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TheContortionist wrote:i'm not sure. it was some 5 man elder squad. Dire avengers i think. i know they where troops.
Edit: I think they where firedragons as they has S8 Ap1 gun too
That's pretty bad luck that the Tervigon didn't kill any of them before they attacked.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 19:59:25
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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grendel083 wrote: TheContortionist wrote:i'm not sure. it was some 5 man elder squad. Dire avengers i think. i know they where troops.
Edit: I think they where firedragons as they has S8 Ap1 gun too
That's pretty bad luck that the Tervigon didn't kill any of them before they attacked.
More likely the Tervie had Crushing Claws, in which case everyone was going at Init 1.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 20:13:44
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Tunneling Trygon
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Tervigons are Intiative 1 anyway so....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 20:17:02
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Tilter at Windmills
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TheContortionist wrote:this came up in a game when my opponent threw 5 metla bombs at my tervigon in CC. I said he could only through one...
Just noticed that you're mixing your terms. You THROW grenades (Frag or Krak) in the SHOOTING phase, and are limited to one. In assault, however, every guy who's got grenades or meltabombs can use them; they just get only 1A each, and if using meltabombs, attack at I1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/18 20:30:47
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/19 00:22:02
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vanguard vets as well, as there are quite a few units where everyone can have melta bombs, didnt relise they go at init 1 though so its good to know
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/19 00:31:36
Subject: Re:Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Yep, Vanguard Vets, Honour Guard, Death Company, Wolf Guard... the list goes on. Basically any veteran Marine unit that isn't Termies or Sternguard can take 'em.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/19 00:34:16
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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The Hive Mind
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Mind. Blown.
Ill have to check closer when I charge in my iron arm Tervigons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/19 03:00:02
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Killer Klaivex
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IG Veterans.
30 points gives a unit of 10 melta bombs, and a democharge.
Those guys tear up monsters like nobodies business.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/19 03:14:33
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Nimble Pistolier
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Blood claws, sky claws, swift claws, wolf scouts, wolf guard. All those units can get melta bombs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/19 04:29:10
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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The Hive Mind
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The entire unit?
I didn't think they were that widespread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/19 05:07:12
Subject: Are melta bombs Greanades?
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Nimble Pistolier
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Just checked and blood claws and sky claws can't get Melta bombs anymore, that was the old rules. On a bright note thunder wolf cavalry can carry Melta bombs
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