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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/21 18:44:17
Subject: 2k competitive guard! Can you improve it?!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So I've been having quite a lot of success in 6th with my guard (Unbeaten in 1500 games so far) and have decided to expand to 2k. Please be brutal in the comments as I will most likely be taking this list to a local tournament.
Company command squad, 4x plasma guns, commander with combat weapon and las pistol. In Chimera with Hflamer and Hstubber -- 215
3x Veteran Squad with 3x plasmal. In chimera with Hflamer & Hstubber -- 585
2x vendetta -- 260
Vendetta -- 130
Vendetta -- 130
2x Leman Russ Battle Tank with Hstubber -- 320
Leman Russ Battle Tank with Hstubber -- 160
3x Griffon with Hstubber -- 225
Comes to a total of 2000 bang on. Comes to a total of 13 Plasma guns, 12 Twin-linked Lascannons, 3 ap3 templates and Griffons temples. With my similar 1500 list i normally table my enemy or they quite as casualties are quite high by turn 3/4. My only concern is some kind of death star marching into my tanks and murdering the infantry.
cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/21 20:33:42
Subject: 2k competitive guard! Can you improve it?!
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Chimera with Hflamer & Hstubber
Why the stubber? I'm guessing the HF is Hull Mounted?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/21 21:17:00
Subject: Re:2k competitive guard! Can you improve it?!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Correct the heavy flamers are all hull mounted. The reason for the heavy stubbers is because of the new weapon destroyed rules in 6th. As we now have to randomly roll to see what is destroyed it gives the main weapon the Russ and chimera more survivability
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/21 21:27:02
Subject: 2k competitive guard! Can you improve it?!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not enough troops. If you want to play competitively in 6E, you really need more troops. I'd go with at least a minimum of 4 troops and probably even 5 or 6. Consider getting an infantry platoon. You can always blob up in VP missions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/21 22:40:41
Subject: 2k competitive guard! Can you improve it?!
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Ten heavy stubbers seems a bit silly. Weapon destroyed results are not that common anyway and adding an upgrade to a chimera that is 20% of its cost seems wrong to me. Couldn't you drop them and maybe a single vendetta/griffon for more vets to ride in the vendettas?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/22 05:36:45
Subject: Re:2k competitive guard! Can you improve it?!
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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If im correct shouldnt your CCS in a chimera with x4 plasma guns be 165pts and then 175 if you add the stubber, Where are you getting 215 if i may ask, im probably missing something lol.
I would also agree, drop a vendetta, a griffon, and the veavy stubbers on the chimeras. That will give you 225pts to spare which could get you some melta vets in your vendettas. So you could add like x2 vets with x3 meltas each and you could add an astropath to bring in your air support or get an officer of the fleet to put off your opponents.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/22 18:32:47
Subject: Re:2k competitive guard! Can you improve it?!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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thanks for the replies guys. I hear your comments about the Heavy stubbers but i think there essential on the Griffons and Russ but i'm going to remove them from the Chimeras.
@ Tankboy145 I incorrectly stated my command squad, it contained a master of the fleet and plasma pistol for my commander which brings it to 215
I'll post and updated list shortly Automatically Appended Next Post: Here goes v2!
Company command -- Officer of the fleet, 4x plasma, power weapon & Chimera -- 195
Veteran squad -- 70
Veteran squad -- 3x plasma & Chimera -- 170
Veteran squad -- 3x plasma & Chimera -- 170
Veteran squad -- 3x plasma & Chimera -- 170
Vendetta Squadron -- 2x Vendetta -- 260
Vendetta Squadron -- 1x Vendetta -- 130
Vendetta Squadron -- 1x Vendetta -- 130
Leman Russ squadron -- 2 LRMBT, Heavy stubbers -- 340
Leman Russ squadron -- 1 LRMBT, Heavy stubber -- 340
Total of 1995
Thanks again guys!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/22 18:45:48
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 05:00:53
Subject: Re:2k competitive guard! Can you improve it?!
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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So from what I see in your post below you mean too have 2 squads of 2 lrbt with stubbers right? from the addition done you have 25pts left, I would still suggest dropping a vendetta and get a melta vet squad in a chimera for the points so you have more scoring troops.
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