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I know that a lot of newer codex changes have sort of bred-out ignoring invul, other than the occasional characteristic test.
Just wondering if I could get a list of all models in FW (The 40k approved, not Apoc) that ignore invuls (including characteristic test stuff)
Just curious to see if there's still any out there really.
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Anything that doesnt cause a wound, ignores invulnerable saves - because you cannot take a save unless a wound (or pen ./glance hit) has been caused.

I know of no actual weapon that causes wounds that ignore invulnerable saves any longer. The last ones were taken out with the necron and SoB codex releases.
   
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The only thing I know that ignores invulns is the vindicare. Although he's not a FW thing. Even Destroyer class weapons allow invulns.
   
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And even Vindicare doesn't technically ignore invulnerable saves. Shield breaker ammor removes invulnerable saves given by [b]wargear[/b, not anything else]. So it doesn't work against Daemons, DCA, any psychic power that gives invuln like Forewarning etc.

But Nosferatu is correct, lots of stuff that remove models as casualities but don't cause wounds: All those could be said to 'ignore' invuln.
   
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That's fallen by the wayside with the new GK book (one of the few things I don't like about the new rules, psycannons were once S6 heavy bolters that ignored Inv saves and could be fired at half range as assault weapons, none of this 24"/S7/Rending nonsense that makes little sense on the context of fighting Daemons).

I'd totally trade the new psycannons/Incinerators and the Ward fluff for the stuff in the old book with my GK army...

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So how many non-apoc FW things can you all think of that kill without causing a wound? Just cause I find this interesting.
   
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As you can see, they aren't that rare. Especially not in the recent codexes. I'm pretty sure that's not all of them either.


   
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