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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 05:19:45
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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Dakka Veteran
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I know that a lot of newer codex changes have sort of bred-out ignoring invul, other than the occasional characteristic test.
Just wondering if I could get a list of all models in FW (The 40k approved, not Apoc) that ignore invuls (including characteristic test stuff)
Just curious to see if there's still any out there really.
Thanks all
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 12:46:38
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Anything that doesnt cause a wound, ignores invulnerable saves - because you cannot take a save unless a wound (or pen ./glance hit) has been caused.
I know of no actual weapon that causes wounds that ignore invulnerable saves any longer. The last ones were taken out with the necron and SoB codex releases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 15:50:26
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The only thing I know that ignores invulns is the vindicare. Although he's not a FW thing. Even Destroyer class weapons allow invulns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 16:25:31
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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And even Vindicare doesn't technically ignore invulnerable saves. Shield breaker ammor removes invulnerable saves given by [b]wargear[/b, not anything else]. So it doesn't work against Daemons, DCA, any psychic power that gives invuln like Forewarning etc.
But Nosferatu is correct, lots of stuff that remove models as casualities but don't cause wounds: All those could be said to 'ignore' invuln.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 18:23:21
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/24 19:42:42
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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That's fallen by the wayside with the new GK book (one of the few things I don't like about the new rules, psycannons were once S6 heavy bolters that ignored Inv saves and could be fired at half range as assault weapons, none of this 24"/S7/Rending nonsense that makes little sense on the context of fighting Daemons).
I'd totally trade the new psycannons/Incinerators and the Ward fluff for the stuff in the old book with my GK army...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 21:49:37
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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Dakka Veteran
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So how many non-apoc FW things can you all think of that kill without causing a wound? Just cause I find this interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/27 02:19:10
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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As you can see, they aren't that rare. Especially not in the recent codexes. I'm pretty sure that's not all of them either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/27 03:49:53
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/27 07:46:51
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/27 10:19:56
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/27 11:33:04
Subject: FW Ignore invul saves
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