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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/25 03:01:34
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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Snake Mountain
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I know this has probably been discussed already but my search-fu has revealed nothing so far.
I understand the gods of chaos each have their own number, 6 for Slaanesh, 7 for Nurgle, 8 for Khorne and 9 for Tzeentch. (I've also heard of 11 for Malal.)
I've heard several theories on why they have numbers, I used to play when they actually had an impact on the game so I understand what they are for, I simply want to know why did each god recieve their number?
The best answer I've found was that Tzeentch gave them their numbers, he gave Nurgle 7 as he wanted him to be the lowest, then Khorne 8 and himself 9 so he was the highest. Slaanesh came later and as the newbie of the gods was given the lowest rank, 6.
Now as far as I can tell this has nothing to do with age as Khorne is the oldest, so I was just wondering if anyone had any ideas or thoughts on this. I am also wondering if these could be some form of 'in-joke' or real world references to these numbers.
Thanks for any assistance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/25 04:57:58
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Slaneesh got six because it sounds like sex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/25 04:59:38
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/25 05:27:49
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
octarius sector squishin bugz
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Wait what are Gork and Morks sacred Numbers??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/25 05:31:01
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 00:23:25
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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Regular Dakkanaut
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As high as an ork can count.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 04:38:06
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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A Dakkanaut called Nurglich once opined that the sacred numbers are a sort of count-down* ... to what is anyone's guess. *The theory is founded on the idea that Slaanesh, the "youngest," is associated with the lowest of the four numbers. This would in turn mean that Tzeentch is the "oldest" -- and AFAIK there is no source to support that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 12:39:32
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Manchu wrote:
*The theory is founded on the idea that Slaanesh, the "youngest," is associated with the lowest of the four numbers. This would in turn mean that Tzeentch is the "oldest" -- and AFAIK there is no source to support that.
But isn't nurgle the oldest god of chaos? Negatively viewed as god of decay but sees himself as the will to survive against death?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 13:13:32
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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The synchronicity of the universe is determined by certain mathematical constants which express themselves in the form of 'patterns' and 'cycles' in nature.
Chaos Gods are Freemasons?
amudkipz wrote: Manchu wrote:
*The theory is founded on the idea that Slaanesh, the "youngest," is associated with the lowest of the four numbers. This would in turn mean that Tzeentch is the "oldest" -- and AFAIK there is no source to support that.
But isn't nurgle the oldest god of chaos? Negatively viewed as god of decay but sees himself as the will to survive against death?
According to The Lost and the Damned it's Khorne who is the oldest, then Tzeentch, then Nurgle. But this is from a human perspective as the Chaos Gods have always, yet never, existed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 13:54:50
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Pilau Rice wrote:The synchronicity of the universe is determined by certain mathematical constants which express themselves in the form of 'patterns' and 'cycles' in nature.
Chaos Gods are Freemasons?
amudkipz wrote: Manchu wrote:
*The theory is founded on the idea that Slaanesh, the "youngest," is associated with the lowest of the four numbers. This would in turn mean that Tzeentch is the "oldest" -- and AFAIK there is no source to support that.
But isn't nurgle the oldest god of chaos? Negatively viewed as god of decay but sees himself as the will to survive against death?
According to The Lost and the Damned it's Khorne who is the oldest, then Tzeentch, then Nurgle. But this is from a human perspective as the Chaos Gods have always, yet never, existed.
Hm, I' thought that granpa' Nurgle is oldest  ???
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Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 14:13:56
Subject: Sacred Numbers
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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The Lost and the Damned: P176
Khorne was the first of the Great Powers to wake fully, and an era of wars and conflict raged across the globe. Tzeentch was the next, and nations and politics grew to adulthood with all their implicit intrigues and double dealings. Nurgle was the third to awake and plagues swept across continents claiming many souls for the Lord of Decay
He might have been the first to begin to take form, but not to come into existence.
I have a belief that this has something to do with the birthing of Nurgle
THE BIRTH OF FEAR
But victory came at a price. Shards of the Yngir's flesh, driven deep into Khaine's body by the cataclysmic demise of his foe, melted in the fires of the War God's wrath. The silver poison flowed into his bloodstream, forever tainting his physical incarnation with the aspect of the Reaper.
Kaelis Ra cannot truly die, for it is death incarnate. Raging at its defeat, its quintessence howled throughout space, entering every one of the Eldar race and cursing them with the terror of the grave. Thus it was that the seed of the Eldar's downfall was sown, and ultimately, the way of reincarnation was closed to them forever.
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