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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2012/12/14 22:01:25
	  
	    Subject: Armoured Battle Group 1850 
	
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                            Junior Officer with Laspistol
	 
 
 
	
	
	 
	
 
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									Company Command Tank - Vanquisher, Co-ax stubber, Lascannon, Artificer hull, Beast-hunter shells, Multimelta sponsons
  Company Command Tank - Exterminator, Lascannon, Heavy bolter sponsons
  
  LRBT - H.Flamer 
  LRBT - H.Flamer
  2x LRD - H.Flamer 
  Armoured Fist - Flamer
  Armoured Fist - Flamer
  Armoured Fist - Flamer
  
  Vulture - Punisher cannons 
  Devildog - Multimelta
  
  Hydra
  Hydra
  
  After trying out the vendetta, I decided to change it to a vulture. Vector dancer is such a nice ability to have, I found the vendetta much harder to use. The vulture would need to get behind fliers to have much of a chance, although this isn't too hard if you approach from the right angle. I guess my BFG experience will be useful.
  
  The devildog was just to rebalance the AT power from losing the vendetta. It will probably try to run out and pop some transports for the heavy cannons to take advantage of. Also, it gives a unit that can receive the flat out order, if needed.
  
  The warlord vanquisher is very bloated but also quite powerful. Maybe if it dies too much I will readdress its configuration, but we shall see.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2012/12/14 23:00:59
	  
	    Subject: Armoured Battle Group 1850 
	
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                            Killer Klaivex
	 
 
 
	
	
	 
	
 
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									I'd drop the multi-meltas off the Vanquisher, and drop the Hydras.  
  Frees up points for an Avenger Strike Fighter.
  2 Las Cannons
  2 Auto Cannons
  1 Avenger Cannon (S6 AP3 Heavy 7)
  1 Heavy Stubber
  
  It also get strafing run.  With high strength shots, it's about as effect vs T4 as the Vulture is, but it's going the firepower to drop enemy flyers as well.
  
  I packs a lot of flexibility.  Not as durable (AV11 with 2 HP) but puts out more hurt.
  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2012/12/14 23:08:13
	  
	    Subject: Armoured Battle Group 1850 
	
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                            Junior Officer with Laspistol
	 
 
 
	
	
	 
	
 
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									I see your point and wanted to get an avenger when I first saw the model. S6 on the avenger just kills it for me. It really doesn't seem like a great AT gun. S7 would have done it for me though.
  
  The hydras are such beautiful models, I would be loathe to lose them. They also act as great lures. Fliers tend to aim straight at them, allowing the vulture to dance behind them and glance them to death.
  
  MMs are just there to make use of bs4. It seems wrong to go without sponsons when you have the higher bs. Plasma can't snap fire and bolters would not mesh well with the primary purpose.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2012/12/15 01:45:35
	  
	    Subject: Re:Armoured Battle Group 1850 
	
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                            Camouflaged Zero
	 
 
 
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									with the leman russes being heavy vehicles, they can only move 6" but can fire all weapons at full BS. The only thing that negates this is if its primary weapon is ordinance, so you could take plasma sponsons on you vanquisher. Im not a fan of the vanquisher cannon myself as it hasnt been so successful for me in the past, I see its got a co-axial so if that hits then its pretty much twin linked... but even so its not the best one hit kill with only ap2. For a simialr cost can get melta vets in chimera, or a bit more and they're in a vendetta. The one thing it has got is massive range, so if you're playing large games where thats needed, then its good.
							 
							
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 If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2012/12/15 02:05:04
	  
	    Subject: Armoured Battle Group 1850 
	
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									The vanquisher is designed to be the warlord, so should be staying back with the other tanks providing cover and bubble wrap. I think, although have not tested, that the melta sponsons will offer a close range panic button. If something super dangerous, like a dreadnought or MC, gets too close then the vanquisher will unload and hopefully stop it.
  
  I just reread the daemon special rule. Do daemons not have eternal warrior as standard now? If so, I can't wait to one hit kill a daemon prince with beast-hunter shells. I really need to look up a list of models without eternal warrior.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2012/12/15 15:21:00
	  
	    Subject: Armoured Battle Group 1850 
	
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									  Trickstick wrote:The vanquisher is designed to be the warlord, so should be staying back with the other tanks providing cover and bubble wrap. I think, although have not tested, that the melta sponsons will offer a close range panic button. If something super dangerous, like a dreadnought or  MC, gets too close then the vanquisher will unload and hopefully stop it.
 
  I just reread the daemon special rule. Do daemons not have eternal warrior as standard now? If so, I can't wait to one hit kill a daemon prince with beast-hunter shells. I really need to look up a list of models without eternal warrior.  
 
 A Daemon Prince from the Chaos Marines codex can be insta killed but the Daemon Prince from the Chaos Daemons codex still has eternal warrior.
							  
							
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