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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

Hi guys I'm busy putting together and painting up my ork army but still getting to grips with the rules and what army list to take. Here is what I own so far:

1 Trukk.
80 Boyz.
16 Lootas.
20 Nobz.
10 Stormboyz.
Big Mek w/ Shokk Gun.
2 Boxes Gretchin.
8 grots
Big Mek w/Boss Pole.
Ork Weirdboy.
9 deffkoptas
12 burnas
Ghazkull
Warbiss and squigg
5 tankbustas

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated so let me know what list I could make for fun/competitive games.

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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker




New York

Well, have you thought about a klan/army type that you'd like to run?

Evil Sunz/Speed Freeks? (Trukk Rush = as many Trukks as you can fit in a list, Battlewagon Blitz = as many Battlewagons (with Deff Rollas!) as you can fit in a list, Wazdakka's Warbikes = an all biker army)

Goffs/Green Tide? (Green Tide = Putting as many Orks as you can on the table, then weeping every time you have to move them...)

Deff Skullz? (Dread Bash = Deff Dreads + Killa Kanz to the max!, Armored Krumpany = Lootas + Looted Wagons + lots of vehicles)

Evil Sunz?(Flash Gitz, Battlewagons, and/or Meganobz)






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Also, nice models so far!

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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant




Hanging out on the Great Plains

Well how many points are you looking at and are they slugga or shoota boyz? I know this is what you got but I would pick up a Big Mek with a Kustom Force Field.

Rough list

Center - Charging up the center
1 unit of Nob and 29 Boyz and Warboss with Squigg
1 unit of Nob and 29 Boyz
1 unit of Nob and 22 Boyz

Right Flank - Fire support for center boyz charge
3 unit of 5 Lootas

Left Flank - Charging on the left
3 units of 3 deffkoptas

Then for rear support use the 2 boxes of gretchin to build a unit to seize and hold objectives in your deployment zone.


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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

Oh sorry I also have 4 mega nobz with flamers.
I have painted them all up as bad moons so far but wanted to stay away from speed freaks as everyone seems to choose it, But not 100% green tide. Maybe utilising meganobz or burn as in a trukk.? Thanks for the response lads.

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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker




New York

thehumanplague wrote:
Oh sorry I also have 4 mega nobz with flamers.
I have painted them all up as bad moons so far but wanted to stay away from speed freaks as everyone seems to choose it, But not 100% green tide. Maybe utilising meganobz or burn as in a trukk.? Thanks for the response lads.


One of my favorite tactics is to stick Meganobz with Kombi-Skorchas in a Trukk (with a Reinforced Ram) and shoot them up a board.

You shoot them up the board, they disembark, pop the skorchas, burn the target squad, then assault it.
   
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Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

Going with what you've got your probably best set for a horde footslogging test.

So an example for 1500pts:

HQ
Warboss: 120pts
power klaw
attack squig
eavy armour
cybork body
bosspole

Big mek: 100pts
shokk attack gun
eavy armour

Elites
8 lootas: 120pts

8 lootas: 120pts

Troops:
5 nobs: 255pts
painboy
cybork bodies
'eavy armour
2 pks
2 shoota/skorch combi weapons
Waaagh! banner

20 shoota boys: 170pts
pk, bosspole nob
2 big shootas

20 shoota boys: 170pts
pk, bosspole nob
2 big shootas

20 shoota boys: 170pts
pk, bosspole nob
2 big shootas

20 shoota boys: 170pts
pk, bosspole nob
2 big shootas

20 gretchin: 80pts
2 runt herders

8 gretchin: 24pts

1499pts

So the shokk mek hangs back with the two lootas for long range support, he's attached to the 8grots for a meat shield. Since you haven't got a big mek with a KFF, the next best option is to take the 20 grots to run in front of your shoota boys. The warboss joins onto the nobs unit which should be hidden in the horde. Now the issue is that nobs are not great and are rather overpriced, so if you want you could drop them for 255pts and just add your warboss to another unit. Then take 2 units of 2 TL rokkit deffkoptas with one power klaw between them. These would give you mobile pks and rokkits that can outflank if you choose.

Just a note on the possible meganobs or burnaboys in the trukk, as you've only got 1 trukk, it would be instantly destroyed as its your only vehicle. Foot slogging meganobs often doesny work as most armies pack some ap2 stuff (plasma) so they'd be targetted. By just taking a whole heap of cheap guys like in a tide it wastes their use of these weapons. I agree though the tide is a pain in the movement phase.

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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

That looks like a great list!
DANG I NEED TO PAINT ANOTHER 30 BOYZ!!!!
I now understand why so many people play speed freaks!
So all I need is a pain boy and I'm ready.

Do many people play ghaz or weirdboy anymore?

Thanks for the detailed response dude. Appreciated

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Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

Ghaz is awesome and also painfully expensive so below 2000pts he's a rare sight. Wierdboys are only really good in a horde list so you could replace the shokk mek with him. But I think between the two the shokk mek is better and works nice with the lootas. However if you get lucky and can teleport a unit of 20 boys though.... thats hard to beat.

If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush

The easy way is always mined

 
   
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

OK cool I'll play each and see how I get on. They both can inject the fun element. Is it worth keeping the stormboyz? I was thinking of selling them

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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes






New Hampshire

I'd get a battlewagon at some point, I just got one and I love it. You have a solid amount of boyz and lootas, which is good for 'sloggin.
I'd dump the stormboyz, they are twice the price for basically the same stats as boyz. Only advantage is the rokkit pack (which can blow up and kill a boy)

WAAAGH!!!

 
   
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Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

Stormboys are often dependant on the battlefield and how they can make use of cover. For 10 with a pk,bp nob that 160pts. Many run them with zagstruk for his deepstriking assualt ability which is expensive but can be effective. Pretty much they're a fast moving pk unit which can jump over terrain. But they have to make the best use of cover as ultimately they're still normal orks and 10 boys will die easily from some dedicated shooting, (which they're bound to attract as they will be up the front). I mean they are a fun unit but with the changes in 6th ed as well, I've found they've been shelved along with my kommandos

If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush

The easy way is always mined

 
   
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

OK cool thanks again mate. I guess the same goes for tankbustas?

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Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

Well tankbusters haven't really ever been good. I got 10 then used them a bit and I was a very disappoint... ran them a bit as rokkit models in my units of 20 but even that wasn't so successful. Then only situation they've been remotely successful was in a trukk list where there was a unit of them in one with a heap of bomb squigs. So close in fast and then release 3 squigs and then assault with tankhammers and the like. But then that involved a bit of luck to get them there in the first place.

If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush

The easy way is always mined

 
   
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

Yeah I figured that. I just really like the models so decided to paint up a small squad for fun games, and like you say I can always run them as rokkit boyz. Do you field green tide also?

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Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

Yeah, but its not quite doing so well in as in 5th but still works for me an its what I got. Can make smaller point trukk lists but its not my style. The main loss is that infiltrators and scouts cant assault on turn 1. So no longer do my kommandos and deffkoptas give me a reliable turn 1 pk in close combat. But KFF meks have become interesting as of the new cover rules. So either they focus on those not under the KFF or target it as a whole. One thing I've never invested in is lootas, I know they're good but I've never made the transition to include a stationary unit in my charging footy horde.

If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush

The easy way is always mined

 
   
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

OK mate it sounds like you have alot of valuable knowledge and experience. Lootaz actually were the models that got me into orks. I started out with chaos but I sold them all. I see a lot of people playing nob bikers now with wazz

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Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

Hmm, yeah biker mobs seem to be popular now with alot of those lists online at the moment. I found the main deterrent for me was that lootas only came in 5 packs with only 4 guns. Then in NZ thats $47 which is about 39USD so it kinda put me off.

If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush

The easy way is always mined

 
   
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

Wow that's basically twice the price! Check ebay, their second hand but alot cheaper than that. Its dumb you get a men every box. Just release one in fail cast and keep it too 5 lootaz per box. If I come across some online I'll let you know.

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Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

Haha okay cheers.

If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush

The easy way is always mined

 
   
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

whats your opinion of ard boyz? i have the kit to make 10 of them. I may just make them for the cool models

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I stopped playing ard' boyz and paying for eavy armor. Personally I seem to face a lot of people who cut right through with AP4 stuff, but see what works for you. If anything model them then don't pay for the upgrade.

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Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

yeah 'ard boys are not really worth it, though sometimes 'eavy armour is useful on a nob. There is the odd time he gets challenged by someone who lacks a power weapon so at I3, that 4+ is essential to keep him there till he lets rip with his pk.

If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush

The easy way is always mined

 
   
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

OK cool I'll bare that in mind.

Oh I'm going to play with the list you suggested tomorrow. Do you think it would be better with a kff?

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Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

Depends who you verse. Shooty armies like Tau, definitely the KFF. But for others the shokk attack gun would be a safe bet. The grots will take a few hits for the boys and if they're ignored entirely, you have another scoring unit to play around with.
Good luck

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Your Shower

If you've got the money, you could use a Dakkajet or two with three TL Supa Shootas as it work well with weird boys for multiple waaaaaaghs and 18 shots each time you call a WĂ€AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

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Orks 3500pts
High Elves 2250pts
Vampire Counts
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

I play at a club so would be against a range of armies. Yeah I think dakka jets will be my next buy they look so awesome and I hear their pretty dang powerfull!

Anyone want to buy a stompa I have a brand new one for sale


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Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation




Your Shower

thehumanplague wrote:
. Yeah I think dakka jets will be my next buy they look so awesome and I hear their pretty dang strong!











Oh yes they are! I play an army with three of them! It is epic!

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Grey Knights!! 3000pts
Orks 3500pts
High Elves 2250pts
Vampire Counts
2013 games :
Wins:21 Lose:4 Draw:1  
   
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

Yeah I think I'll buy 2 when I sell my stomp a!!

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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel




Norway (Oslo)

Selling yer stompah? my.. save it for later use!

Waagh like a bawz

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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte




Bay area CA

I need the funds for my dakka jets. I'm not a apocalypse fan personally.

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