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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 09:39:08
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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In a game of fantasy my friend used Melkoth's mystifying miasma on my unit of 50 bloodletters( I know it's a little excessive) and reduced them to initiative 1. After this he used pit of shades and as they were initiative 1 most of them were dragged to their DOOM! Was this correct?
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Tournament record: (W/D/L)
Space wolves : 1/1/1
Dark Eldar : 6/0/1 (1 overall win)
Daemons :8/0/2 (1 overall win)
Normal games starting 5/11/12:
Dark Eldar 13/0/1
Daemons 32/1/1
Friends armies 1/0/0 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 09:58:50
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sure, if he rolls a 3. But 50 aren't going to be covered by a template unless it's large and perfectly centered.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 18:59:54
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Scouting Shade
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No, Pit of Shades uses unmodified iniative aka the init. in their statline
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"We have more soldiers than you have bullets." The Imperial Guard |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 19:11:43
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Deadly Tomb Guard
Payson Utah, USA
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"Pit Of Shades is a Direct Damage Spell. Place the small template anywhere within 24"- it then scatters D6". All models under the template must pass an initiative test or be dragged to their DOOM (remove them as casualties with no saves of any kind allowed). The Wizard can chose to create a vaster portal, using the large template rather than the small template. if he does so, the casting value is increased to 17+ and the template scatters 2d6" rather than D6"."
I don't see where it says to use their "unmodified initiative."
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I am a Utah man sir, I live across the green, our gang is the jolliest that you have ever seen, Our co-eds are the fairest, ans each one's a shining star, our yell you'l hear it ringing through the mountains near and far.
Who am I sir? a UTAH MAN am I. A UTAH MAN sir, I will be till I die.
KI-YI
Were up to snuff, we never bluff were game for any fuss, no other gang of college men dare meet us in the MUSS. So fill your lungs and sing it out and shout it to the sky, we'll fight for dear old Crimson for a UTAH MAN AM I!!
GO UTES!!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 22:25:11
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've never heard of any "unmodified" characteristic test other than LD. And even that isn't very common. Your characteristics are what they are at time of test as far as I know.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/30 22:33:50
Subject: Re:lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Yeah, I don't know of any spells that state unmodified on any characteristic except the Lore of Death spells which are on Ld.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/31 00:53:52
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Yeah arion is mistaken, it is whatever you stat is at the time the test is taken, so if reduced to t2 and forced to take a t test, its ontthe modified stat, not unmodified.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/31 03:17:12
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Deadly Tomb Guard
Payson Utah, USA
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I don't thin I was mistaken, but that Dark Haemonculus was mistaken.
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I am a Utah man sir, I live across the green, our gang is the jolliest that you have ever seen, Our co-eds are the fairest, ans each one's a shining star, our yell you'l hear it ringing through the mountains near and far.
Who am I sir? a UTAH MAN am I. A UTAH MAN sir, I will be till I die.
KI-YI
Were up to snuff, we never bluff were game for any fuss, no other gang of college men dare meet us in the MUSS. So fill your lungs and sing it out and shout it to the sky, we'll fight for dear old Crimson for a UTAH MAN AM I!!
GO UTES!!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/31 11:20:53
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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Arion, how dare you make such a ridiculous mistake? This is YMDC - we debate RAW here. Take your houserules somewhere else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/31 17:37:42
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Tangent wrote:Arion, how dare you make such a ridiculous mistake? This is YMDC - we debate RAW here. Take your houserules somewhere else.
Did you read what Arion said? He quoted the actual rule and pointed out that the rule lacks the term unmodified. He is correct.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/31 18:08:32
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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No, I didn't read it - a clear sign that his post contained a houserule as I don't read houserules in YMDC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/31 18:15:01
Subject: lore of shadows - Melkoth's mystifying miasma + pit of shades = awesomeness
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Regular Dakkanaut
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a similar thing can be done with goblin little waagh magic, combining itchy nuisance and curse of da bad moon (big version)
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