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I'm curious to how these perform, I'm thinking of picking up a few today for testing and such. I'm a newbie to painting, most of my stuff is a basic matte coat and that's it.

My current army is Scab Red (now called Khorne Red), I'm going to highlight with Wazdakka Red and test wash two figures, one with Nuln Oil (which is blackish), and the other with Reikland Fleshshade (which is a deep orange) to test the effects. I also plan on picking up Bloodletter Glaze for testing it and the Lamentor's Shade Yellow Glaze for my golden parts.

My brother plays Angry Marines so he's considering a Casandora Yellow Wash or Nuln Oil, and using Lamentor's Shade and Bloodletter Glazes to pop his colors.

How well do these work? Any good examples? Are they really worth it? Do I Wash then Hightlight then Glaze or what?

Personally I'm a huge fan of the new Citadel range. Not 100% sold on the glazes however, you have to be very careful how you use them to get good effects, you can't just slap them on like a wash and expect things to look nice.

1000moths wrote:
Personally I'm a huge fan of the new Citadel range. Not 100% sold on the glazes however, you have to be very careful how you use them to get good effects, you can't just slap them on like a wash and expect things to look nice.

I was going to use them on the areas of glowing red on my weapons and goggles for my Tau, and the Yellow on my Golden sub-parts for my army (since my army is Scab Red and Gold)

I'm new to washes/glazes in general so I'm trying to figure out exactly how I should use them and in what orders, etc. and whether the effect is worth it.

So washes absolutely are worth it, if you've not used them before you're going to love the depth they give your mini's.

I've only ever used Citadel washes and personally find the new ones even better than the old favourites, they seem to stain the mini less and sit better in the places you want the shading.

Black over Khorne red is something I used on my Word Bearers and find it deepens the red and helps give exactly the transition I want for the armour.

1000moths wrote:
So washes absolutely are worth it, if you've not used them before you're going to love the depth they give your mini's.

I've only ever used Citadel washes and personally find the new ones even better than the old favourites, they seem to stain the mini less and sit better in the places you want the shading.

Black over Khorne red is something I used on my Word Bearers and find it deepens the red and helps give exactly the transition I want for the armour.

That makes me very happy, Nuln Oil is the one I was really considering for my Scab Red primary coat army. I have Reikland Fleshshade for testing too though just incase I want a reddish-brown wash.

How exactly do you use a Wash? Do you just brush it lightly over the whole figure and let it seep into the crevices? And does it come before or after you apply highlights?

I dont think the flesh wash will do much for the Khorne red, and if you're looking for something to go over the gold i'd personally use sepia.

With regards to application you can slap it all over and let it settle into the recesses, or you can guide it directly in the deepest recesses and clean up any over spill with a cotton bud.

For shading you'd generally slap it over the base coat and the highlight up from there, but I also use it between highlights on faces etc.

You can also use washes in combination with each other, for instance on my CSM I do a heavy slash of crimson, then a more directed wash of violet to the lower parts of the armour, finally once i've done the silver trims it all gets a heavy wash of black.

The important thing with washes is to let them dry completely before you do anything else, this can take anything up to an hour or more. I can't stress how important this is, if you try to paint over an area that's not fully dry you will get paint bleeding into the recesses and this will wreck the mini.

1000moths wrote:
I dont think the flesh wash will do much for the Khorne red, and if you're looking for something to go over the gold i'd personally use sepia.

With regards to application you can slap it all over and let it settle into the recesses, or you can guide it directly in the deepest recesses and clean up any over spill with a cotton bud.

For shading you'd generally slap it over the base coat and the highlight up from there, but I also use it between highlights on faces etc.

You can also use washes in combination with each other, for instance on my CSM I do a heavy slash of crimson, then a more directed wash of violet to the lower parts of the armour, finally once i've done the silver trims it all gets a heavy wash of black.

The important thing with washes is to let them dry completely before you do anything else, this can take anything up to an hour or more. I can't stress how important this is, if you try to paint over an area that's not fully dry you will get paint bleeding into the recesses and this will wreck the mini.

That final hint is very important, thank you for that, I most likely would've messed that up.