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Hey everyone, I'm sure this question has been asked and answered a million times but as I can't seem to find any specific answer to it when I search I would like to know if a unit with the DEEP STRIKE special rule is attached to a dedicated transport does that transport arrive with the unit at the same time as the DEEP STRIKE takes place. Essentially what I'm asking is can you deep strike a land raider with a squad of terminators in it onto any point on the battle field. I know that scatter will then take effect but that isn't the concern.

If someone could link specifically where they find a YES, or a NO that would be awesome. I know you can use a dedicated transport to arrive from reserves so why can't you do the same with a vehicle...other then the obvious point of how the hell does a land raider just appear on a battle field. Thanks for your time everybody.

I would assume so , with IG Stormtroopers they can outflank/ infiltrate with their Chimeras that is a dedicated transport .... Anti-fluff yes , against the rules no

 Kasrkin229 wrote:
I would assume so , with IG Stormtroopers they can outflank/ infiltrate with their Chimeras that is a dedicated transport .... Anti-fluff yes , against the rules no

Land Raiders are NOT dedicated transports, they are Heavy Support. So therefore you cannot deep strike a Land Rider.

I would suggest deep striking a Drop pod with something nasty like a dreadnought inside and use the drop pods locator beacon which allows for deep striking within 6" with no scatter.

Well, actually, the CSM codex states that the Terminators may take a Land Raider as a Dedicated Xport :3

Landraiders are usually a dedicated transport for terminator squads.

Yes the CSM codex does allow land raiders to be taken as dedicated transports and so does the C: DA which yes those are my two armies. It specifically states on pg 99 of the new C: DA "DeathWing Knights may select a Land Raider of any type as a Dedicated Transport (pg 104). This vehicle must be given the DeathWing assault Vehicle upgrade at additional cost." So yes it is a dedicated transport for both armies I own and yes I would really love to do this. As I said I CAN NOT find any where in the BRB or any codex that denies a land raider from deep striking with its unit inside of it. Thanks for the in put so far

Dedicated has nothing to do with it, you can hold a unit in reserves inside your Land Raider that is going to Deep Strike so long as the Land Raider has the Deep Strike rule.

Of course, OP doesn't seem to be asking this, he seems to be asking if the fact that the Terminators has Deep Strike confers it to the transport, and that is a resounding no, units with Deep Strike don't allow their transports to Deep Strike, dedicated or not, the transport must have the rule itself to do so.

So...I should buy some land raiders and start plopping them on the field with my Terminators? (deep strike wise)

GoliothOnline wrote:
So...I should buy some land raiders and start plopping them on the field with my Terminators? (deep strike wise)

... No, Deep Strike doesn't confer to the dedicated transport so unless your Land Raiders have the Deep Strike rule they're driving on as normal.

Thank you that does seem the logical answer. I'm mostly just annoyed that you can infiltrate a squad with a dedicated transport but can't deep strike a squad with a dedicated transport. I see the fluff/story line points to it, just makes me annoyed

So the question now, If you take a Land Raider as a DT for a squad of Terminators, and roll for your reserves at the start of the turn, does the Land Raider come in on your table edge, while you DS your terminators?

And would you have to roll for them separately (IE roll for reserves on each of them?) Once for the Land Raider and once for the Terminators?

If you're going to deep strike a unit, and the transport can't deep strike with it, its reserved separately. That means you have to roll separately for it. The same happens if you opt to have any unit out of its transport in reserve, deep striking or not.
In this situation the land raider has to come in from the table edge as it can't arrive from anywhere else.

Side note - Blood Angels land raiders CAN deep strike.

GoliothOnline wrote:
So...I should buy some land raiders and start plopping them on the field with my Terminators? (deep strike wise)

Only if they are Blood Angel Land Raiders, those things can Deep Strike.

God that sounds cheese as hell lol XD

Not that I would think it would be cheese for Chaos or nothin

To be honest, it's horrific to try. They don't benefit from descent of angels, so their massive size means its easy to block safe drop zones a,nd force a mishap from even minimal scatter. They're better used just deploying normally and using cover.

I can see that being pretty annoying XD

Though I run 2 x 5 man squads of Terminators :(

And in my next game am planning to try to DS a squad of 10 lol XD this shall be interesting O_o

It helps if you have a scout squad with a locator beacon about where you want to drop the LR.

That way no scatter.

Or a drop pod or two with beacons.

Just remember teleport homers only work on terminator armor (In regards to DA)

I used a LR filled with Termies (3 TH,2 LC, Sang. Priest in TDA and a PA Chappy) and DS right in front of a Tau gunline. He had his ENTIRE army in one corner cause he knew I was coming for him. When I DS and did not scatter (THANK the GODS) he about gak a brick .... I mauled him after that. He took it well though.

In practice .... BAD IDEA without a locator beacon.

Just saying.

Odly enough, in a different post I brought up the idea of using a Biker lord with the Dimensional Key as a "beacon" for my Reserves.

I actually got to try it out, and it worked amazingly! The key states that "Any friendly units from this codex that arrive by Deep Strike after the key's power has been unlocked do not scatter"

I was quite happy lol

Could be fun, one way to actually "thread the needle" with talons but in either case what do we (CSMs) actually want to deep strike? Now if it let my daemon allies no scatter... OH GOD flamers galore!

Termies, MAYBE Mapters (melta rapters) what else are you really deep striking that much?