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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/19 07:56:29
Subject: Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Every time you use GoI does it trigger vengeful strike on DA terminators? They are, after all, deep striking every time you do it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/19 10:18:40
Subject: Re:Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Executing Exarch
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Vengeful Strike - "When a model with this special rule arrives by Deep Strike..."
Gate of Infinity - "...Remove the target unit from the board. It then immediately arrives using the rules for Deep Strike."
(Emphasis mine)
Looks like it works to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/19 10:31:42
Subject: Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm going to say no to this one.
Look at the precedent from Necron Deathmarks in the new FAQ.
They have a similar ability, and people were trying this sort of trick using a Veil of Darkness.
The recent batch of FAQ ruled it illegal.
I would expect the ruling on this to be the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 16:02:35
Subject: Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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So it works until it is FAQ'd then. Nice.
So if Belial is in the squad also they wouldnt scatter. so you could have like a squad of ten termies porting around blasting the heck out of stuff and hoping that their next leap will be the leap home.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/25 16:13:29
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 16:19:43
Subject: Re:Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Gor with Big Horns
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Question, ( and please understand that this is me just asking ) Is there a FAQ about only being able to use GoI with C:SM?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 16:25:01
Subject: Re:Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Puddle_Pirate wrote:Question, ( and please understand that this is me just asking ) Is there a FAQ about only being able to use GoI with C: SM?
No. Gate is also in one of the Psychic disciplines. It is not limited to only C: SM.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 16:34:15
Subject: Re:Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Until it is FAQed, it looks like a very sneaky exploitation of RAW. But it certainly looks legal. Cheeky, but legal! I may try it just for a laugh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 16:44:55
Subject: Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Oh wait, If you were using an Allied SM libby with gate i dont think he would beable to Deathwing assault with the unit so he would have to join after they hit the table or the unti would have to not DW assault. But thats not too bad i guess. would still be fun and silly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 17:11:40
Subject: Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Cosmic Joe
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It's good but you still need a way to get the power reliably.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 17:15:15
Subject: Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Baldsmug wrote:Oh wait, If you were using an Allied SM libby with gate i dont think he would beable to Deathwing assault with the unit so he would have to join after they hit the table or the unti would have to not DW assault. But thats not too bad i guess. would still be fun and silly.
You are getting two rules confused.
Vengeful Strike is different from DW Assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 17:24:08
Subject: Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Leader of the Sept
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Yeah, its just if youwanted Belial's non-scattering rule would you need to stick with dark angel librarians.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/25 17:24:26
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 20:08:00
Subject: Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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40k-noob wrote: Baldsmug wrote:Oh wait, If you were using an Allied SM libby with gate i dont think he would beable to Deathwing assault with the unit so he would have to join after they hit the table or the unti would have to not DW assault. But thats not too bad i guess. would still be fun and silly.
You are getting two rules confused.
Vengeful Strike is different from DW Assault.
I mean if you used a Vanilla librarian he could not deepstrike in one the first turn with the DW squad because he is not deathwing but then could join the group the group after the initial dw assault and then port them around so the can abuse vengeful strike. Unless they were all deployed on the table together to begin then the Vanilla librarian could start porting then. Unless i am getting it wrong and that just by wearing terminator armor the librarian would be able to come in with the deathwing during their initial DW Assault.
As far as reliability goes for getting gate Vanilla libbys can just coose it from their psyker powers section with having to roll for anything. They would not be able to use any of the new powers though but this is just a goofy trick for fun so it doesnt really matter. Could pull it off with a Terminator Libby and 2 units of 5 scouts added to a DW army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 20:21:09
Subject: Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Dakka Veteran
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Ima gonna say no
1 is arives via deepstrike.
the other just uses the rule for deepstrike which is 2 d 6 scatter potential.
See they aren't deepstriking per say they are just borrowing the rules to see where you land after using a spell.
Also the librarian wont have inner circle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/25 21:35:23
Subject: Gate of Infinity and Vengeful Strike
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Leader of the Sept
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Lungpickle wrote:Ima gonna say no
1 is arives via deepstrike.
the other just uses the rule for deepstrike which is 2 d 6 scatter potential.
See they aren't deepstriking per say they are just borrowing the rules to see where you land after using a spell.
Also the librarian wont have inner circle.
The continuity of the Gate of Infinity power wording includes "...if the Deep Strike attempt scatters..." though. Unless its faq'd I think its a perfectly valid tactic and its hardly a game breaker
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