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so what do you all think of him worth it or not?

If you want to run a deathwing/ ravenwing together list then he'll yeah. However if you are just going to run one or the other I would steer away from him and get a Libby or company master.

We normally play in the 2,000 point range and unless I am going pure Deathwing I see no reason not to take him with a second character like Ezekiel.

Scorpiodragon wrote:
If you want to run a deathwing/ ravenwing together list then he'll yeah. However if you are just going to run one or the other I would steer away from him and get a Libby or company master.

The problem I have, what do you do with Azrael himself in a double-wing army? Sit him in a corner?

In my opinion, there are 4 ways to run DA

Greenwing- Basically Vanilla Marines. Company Master, Green Marines. The normal stuff. Assault Marines in Fast Attack, Regular Dreads and Veterans in Elites, Battle Tanks (Preds and Vindis) in HS.

Deathwing- Belial, Deathwing Command Squads, Deathwing as Troops, Vendreads and Knights as Elites, Deathwing Land Raiders as Heavies. Maybe some Assault Marines to flesh out Fast Attack.

Ravenwing- Sammael, Ravenwing Command Squad, Ravenwing as Troops, and basically any Fast Attack unit, with the Land Speeder Vengeance for Heavy Support. Lack of Elites though

Masterwing (Master as in superior to Death/Ravenwings and as in Supreme Grand Master Azrael)- Azrael, 1 squad of Green Marines, an equal mix of Ravenwing and Deathwing as Troops, Knights and Vendreads as Elites, Black Knights, Land Speeders, Flyers and Darkshroud for Fast attack and LRs and Vengeance for Heavies. Add in Asmodai or Ezekial for flavour.


Best way, in my opinion, is Masterwing. Make sure those bokers have Locator beacons.