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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/28 14:54:21
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Dakka Veteran
Reading - UK
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Considering options for tournaments that allow Forgeworld.
Is this thing legal? I do not own a copy of the book yet... Is it in Imperial Armour?
Thanks for any help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/28 15:06:34
Subject: Re:Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
Stockholm Forge District; Skandian Hive Collectives
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You will find the entry for the Storm Eagle in IMPERIAL ARMOUR AERONAUTICA.
Concerning the 'legality' it depends on, as many other things, the Tournament Organizers. However with their newer publications forgeworld are stamping each unit with either an ''Apocalypse'' or ''Warhammer 40.000'' seal to indicate where it should be used.
Quote, Imperial Armour Aeronotica, page 4: " 2. This unit is intended to be used in 'standard' games of warhammer 40.000, within the usual limitations of Codex selection and force organisation charts. As with all our models these should be concidered 'official', but owing to the fact that they may be unknown to your opponent, it's best to make sure that they are happy to play a game containing Forge World models before you start."
That being said you will have to produce a copy of the rules for your oponent so he can read them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/28 15:10:24
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Dakka Veteran
Reading - UK
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Cool, thanks, so it is allowed.
Better go buy the book/model.
Thanks for the help.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/28 15:27:19
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/28 16:38:23
Subject: Re:Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/28 18:09:10
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Lieutenant General
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Please read the tenets of YMDC at the top of the forum, specifically tenet #2.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/28 19:41:29
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Ghaz wrote:Please read the tenets of YMDC at the top of the forum, specifically tenet #2.
And? He is not saying that he is automatically right because he produced an e-mail. In fact there is no argument here. E-mails from GW are technically legal, but should not be relied upon. If everyone was saying the opposite, then you would have a point, but everyone is saying the same thing, tell your opponent and let then look over the rules. In a tournament setting it its up to the TO, and more tourneys are allowing IA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/28 23:33:14
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Due to what Forge World has stated in print you must have permission from an opponent to use the Storm Eagle in a friendly game. It's up to the TO as to whether or not you can use it in a tournament.
The Storm Eagle is stamped as 40k Approved and there is an alternate version for Chaos Space Marines. The rules are available for free on their website... Just do a quick Google search and you'll find them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/29 09:01:30
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dozer Blades wrote:Due to what Forge World has stated in print you must have permission from an opponent to use the Storm Eagle in a friendly game. It's up to the TO as to whether or not you can use it in a tournament.
You have grossly misstated what FW has said
"but owing to the fact that they may be unknown to your opponent, it's best to make sure that they are happy to play a game containing Forge World models before you start."
That is NOT a directive stating you MUST have permission, just "it's best". As in, a suggestion
It is also courtesy, but then it is also courtesy to talk about your army if it is new to an opponent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/29 12:16:58
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Your opponent can always say no. It's not like 'Hey I don't like Manticores."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/29 13:41:53
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes, and your opponent can say "I dont want to play cronair, pick something else or we dont play"
THe entire game is permission based, from the get go. I was pointing out you misrepresented what FW actually said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/29 14:42:01
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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No I got it right. You should reread it again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/29 15:55:19
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Really, no, you didnt.
"it's best" is not a requirement to ask permission. Or do yo uhave an entirely different understanding of basic English to everyone else?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/29 16:31:57
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Okay so you fail to comprehend what they are saying. Do whatever you want. I would never try to force it on anyone in a friendly game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/29 16:54:46
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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L0rdF1end wrote:Cool, thanks, so it is allowed. Better go buy the book/model. Thanks for the help. Talk to your local Tournament Organizer if you want to use it in a tournament. If your Tournaments feature Forge World models and rules, then you should be good to go. The Storm Eagle is very expensive (point and $) for what it does. Very pretty model, though.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/29 16:54:58
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/29 19:33:08
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dozer Blades wrote:Okay so you fail to comprehend what they are saying. Do whatever you want. I would never try to force it on anyone in a friendly game.
Sigh. Fine. Ignore the really, really simple suggestion made by FW, and totally change its meaning. Given you have utterly failed to explain yourself, I will assume you are on fine troll form
You do realise I pointed out that EVERY GAME requires opponents permission? There is no "forcing" in 40k. You are just making the most bizarre statements
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/29 20:00:22
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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kronk wrote:
Talk to your local Tournament Organizer if you want to use it in a tournament. If your Tournaments feature Forge World models and rules, then you should be good to go. The Storm Eagle is very expensive (point and $) for what it does.
Very pretty model, though.
Indeed.
We'll leave the oh-so tiresome FW legality arguments alone please No need to beat that horse to death. Again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/29 20:15:15
Subject: Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think the Storm Eagle is awesome for Chaos Space Marines. I am building one for my new Death Guard army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/30 07:20:49
Subject: Re:Storm Eagle Assault Gunship Forgeworld legal?
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Made one with a stormraven and a vendetta and some spare parts from a heldrake.
Played a few times with it, i like it.
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