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**JOHIRA**

Absolutionis wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
The issue there is that "Bootlegs" still affect the release schedules.
Not seeing an "issue" here.

Agreed. One of the things that always annoyed me about certain other giant miniature gaming companies is they spent all their time modeling troops (and inventing new troops to model when you'd bought all the old troops) and hardly ever put any time into modeling figures that maybe weren't necessary purchases for people filling out their army lists, but which made the game richer. I'm not really interested in the pin-up style bootlegs, but the others (especially Dire Foes) do make the world richer by showing us the little nooks and crannies of the IP that aren't directly fighting. And for every one of us who loves Infinity but who doesn't necessarily just want the straightest line between having nothing and fighting battles on the tabletop, they really add to the game.

**Kanluwen**

Dire Foes != Bootlegs.

Dire Foes were an attempt at adding scenarios and named SpecOps to the game.

And quite frankly, the VIPs that came with the Dire Foes sets were pin-up bootleg nonsense as well.

**Bolognesus**

Mostly true. Angus was a nice touch, though.

**GrimDork**

The good stuff in that MM sale seemed to be going quick! So I nabbed some Geckos in that sale... Four, actually. I'm not even sure there's an entirely viable way to field four of them but as I paint way more than I play... I really just wanted the aesthetic impact of 4 mini-tags. I picked up the alguacile SWC box and a Senor Massacre as those things together all fit in under 300 points(if borrow algs and combis from icestorm)...though I'm not sure it's usable. Probably better served benching at least one of the Geckos for a mobile brigada LT or something... anyway... I digress wrong topic.

I did not realize that it was the SWC box of Fusiliers, I actually kind of like some of those... shame, but I've got like 7 freaking bolts so who needs Fusiliers at this point anyway.

Hmm, RPG still sounds interesting, but I'm gonna have to wait for retail. I get stupid about kickstarters. The KS still hasn't deployed yet right?

**chaos0xomega**

I got geckos too (and I dont even play Nomads). Im pretty sure one of the sectorials makes them AVA 4.

**GrimDork**

Yeah, you can totally take four of them in Corregidor. It's just that you only have like 80-88ish points left to spend on a force under 300 points.. and with only 1 or 2 SWC left to play around with. Linkable is probably way too much to ask, but a lot of TAGs get an LT option.. would have been useful.

**Kanluwen**

GrimDork wrote:
Yeah, you can totally take four of them in Corregidor. It's just that you only have like 80-88ish points left to spend on a force under 300 points.. and with only 1 or 2 SWC left to play around with. Linkable is probably way too much to ask, but a lot of TAGs get an LT option.. would have been useful.

They supposedly tested linkable Geckos for Paradiso and said it's "too broken".

In any regards, having two boxes means you can field a decent mixture of Mark 12s--which are amazing.

**carlos13th**

GrimDork wrote:
The good stuff in that MM sale seemed to be going quick! So I nabbed some Geckos in that sale... Four, actually. I'm not even sure there's an entirely viable way to field four of them but as I paint way more than I play... I really just wanted the aesthetic impact of 4 mini-tags. I picked up the alguacile SWC box and a Senor Massacre as those things together all fit in under 300 points(if borrow algs and combis from icestorm)...though I'm not sure it's usable. Probably better served benching at least one of the Geckos for a mobile brigada LT or something... anyway... I digress wrong topic.

I did not realize that it was the SWC box of Fusiliers, I actually kind of like some of those... shame, but I've got like 7 freaking bolts so who needs Fusiliers at this point anyway.

Hmm, RPG still sounds interesting, but I'm gonna have to wait for retail. I get stupid about kickstarters. The KS still hasn't deployed yet right?

Very jealous of you getting geckos on the cheap.

**TheWaspinator**

Declaring both Geckos to be 12s seems like a fairly reasonable proxy to do. Especially if those are the only Geckos you have, so it won't be confusing.

**ImAGeek**

-Loki- wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
The Nomad guy is definitely a KS exclusive too.

Not really. They said at the Interplanetary they'd be exploring other ways to get the models done for the kickstarter as well.

Well that applies to the Kazak guy too then right? Because they both had pictures like this at GenCon;

Spoiler:

So unless they've changed their mind, the Ariadna guy and the Nomad guy are KS exclusives.

**.Mikes.**

Did he invent the keyboard necktie?

**Barzam**

Part of the problem with the whole exclusive thing is that both CB and Modiphius have both repeatedly given differing and contradictory information. At various points, they've said that the RPG would be kickstarted, then it wouldn't be, then it would again. That the miniatures would be exclusive, then they're not, then they're exclusive, but not really. It would really help if they would make up their minds.

**BobbaFett**

Since CB is a Spanish company and the Modiphius Kickstarter will only benefit the English version of the RPG, I sincerely doubt that the RPG miniatures would be Kickstarter exclusive because that would mean that all the spanish fanbase will loose their chance to get them.
Also, we have seen like 6 of them, right? Sounds like a box to me, like an starter pack.

**Knight**

I hope not. I'd like to only get Haqq and PanO. I'm sure it's more convenient for producers but as a consumer I really don't like buying models that I might not use.

**ImAGeek**

BobbaFett wrote:
Since CB is a Spanish company and the Modiphius Kickstarter will only benefit the English version of the RPG, I sincerely doubt that the RPG miniatures would be Kickstarter exclusive because that would mean that all the spanish fanbase will loose their chance to get them.
Also, we have seen like 6 of them, right? Sounds like a box to me, like an starter pack.

I mean, there might be other versions of the models that aren't Kickstarter exclusive but the photos of the Nomad and Ariadna ones from the GenCon seminar definitely say 'Crowdfunder Exclusive'.

Hold on, here we go, just posted by Modiphious on the official forum:

Hi guys just wanted to say we have an amazing welcome at Interplanetary. Two local GM's were hosting a lot of people trying the Infinity RPG and I ran about 8 short 2 hour sessions to give as many people as possible a taste for what is to come. In fact we had 8 players in one game - now that was crazy! The highlight for me was running a game for Carlos, Alberto, Gutier and Fernando, some of the founders of Corvus Belli!

A few facts then to help out!

- Originally we were doing a pre-order and then a Kickstarter, but with the delay to spend more time on development we decided to just do one kickstarter and keep it simple

- The Kickstarter will be in english, but we will aim to have translations of the main text of the Kickstarter page and rewards in Spanish, German and French if possible.

- Later on we hope to work with partners to produce German, French and Spanish versions of the books. We're in discussions about these but most likely they will happen in 2016 and will announce more info when we can.

- The Kickstarter will launch at the beginning of September and run for about a month (so until the beginning of October)

- If you want to hear about it first sign up at www.modiphius.com/infinity

- There will be a core book, then supplements for each of the factions, campaigns, an aliens supplement, floor tiles to use with miniatures (if you want, you don't need to use minis), custom dice, card decks, and more....

- There will be miniatures which will be semi exclusive to the kickstarter. You will be able to get them later on but with different poses. Bostria has been showing some of them off.

- There will be a couple of major campaigns - one starts on a ship of Ariadne recruits (and other faction crew) bound for Paradiso and the unfolding invasion. You'll learn the rules on the journey, discover a plot and end up at the centre of a major story. This is based on one of the the Corvus Belli's team's early Infinity RPG adventures. There will be stand alone adventures and one of them starts on the space station during the meeting of factions when the first Combined Army attack destroys the station - you'll be running & gunning as you try to escape and protect the VIP's.

- What about character creation? You'll be using three systems (total point buy to get exactly what you want, total random to start with a unique character or guided lifepath where you spend a few points to guide the random lifepath creation) to generate a character that will be affected by Birth Faction, random life events, Social Status, Environment you were brought up in (colony, farm, space station, ship, big city etc), Education, then you go through from 2-4 Primary Careers to add to your skills, talents, gear etc. Yes you will be able to make exactly the character you want matching the favourite Infinity miniature!

- There will be all new artwork in the books, plus lots of new content on the Factions and Combined Army. We will of course include some existing information for people who don't have the Infinity rulebooks.

- We're expecting the core book to be printed for Christmas, along with other accessories, the first adventure and campaign will be available in PDF, then the other unlocked books will be ready during 2016. Dates to be confirmed.

- What can you expect of the Kickstarter? ....

------ There will be a £40 PDF Master pledge which gets you everything unlocked in PDF (in the last kickstarter we did people got 17 books in PDF for this price and about 3000 pages so it was a great deal).

----- There will be a £60 Print Master pledge which gets you the core book in beautiful full colour hardback, plus everything unlocked in PDF. If you order this pledge you'll get an exclusive PDF adventure (which will later be available as part of a big campaign book) that is based on the Corvus Belli's team's early RPG adventures.

----- There will be a £100 PDF Subscription - getting all the RPG PDF's for the next 2 years

----- There will be something like ... a 'Bostria Master' Pledge ;-) which gets you drawn in to the core book as a character with your own stats and a short piece of story. You can join the Infinity story!

----- There will be a pledge for all the books in print (once they're unlocked)

---- There will be some other pledges once we organise things and you'll find out more soon

----- Our shipping is usually pretty good value and we work hard to get it as low as possible. We also offer the chance to pick up at events in London (Dragonmeet or the Modiphius office), UK Games Expo, Gen Con, or Essen once the books are printed.

----- We'll be doing a survey in the next week or so to check which books you'd like to see first in the stretch goals - what's more important, campaigns, or supplements about the factions, floor tiles or accessories etc?

There's a lot more to tell you but this should be enough for now!

**Alpharius**

Thank you ImAGeek for posting that!

This is the one I'm most interested in:

----- There will be a pledge for all the books in print (once they're unlocked)

though I'm also a bit worried about what it will end up costing!

**PsychoticStorm**

It will be worth it!

Edit
To add a bit more that the above, the game system plays well and more importantly it feels well.

He also said they will try to make at least a few campaigns that revolve around major events, but the characters will be a secondary/ parallel story in the main events, for example in Infinity the Paradiso campaign there is a mission were players fight over the retrieval of the Tohaa diplomatic delegate from an escape pod that has crash landed after CA destroyed the O12 space station were diplomatic talks were held, an RPG campaign in this event may involve players trying to escape from the exploding space station.

Overall I am quite excited about this.

**Mort**

Awesome info from Modiphious! Very excited for the RPG!

Thanks for sharing, ImaGeek!

**ImAGeek**

No worries guys. It was pretty good timing really, I'd only just posted about the models being Kickstarter exclusive and straight away found that which answered it!

I've never done an RPG before, but my friends have expressed an interest and they enjoyed Infinity so I'm definitely gonna check it out, and if nothing else I'll probably get the core book for the fluff.

**Alpharius**

Anyone know of any reviews of Modiphius' "2D20" system?

**PsychoticStorm**

I don't know but, my first interaction with it was with the demo in Interplanetary, it felt good and I quite liked the risk/ reword mechanic it has in.

**ski2060**

I got into the alpha testing for the RPG, but had little time to do any actual testing due to life[code]™ getting in the way.

It seemed to promote a cinematic feel to games from what I got on read throughs. Not a number crunching game at all.
It was very cooperative with the game master, and the risk/reward system (HEAT when I first looked at it, I think it was changed to Infinity pool) looked pretty cool.
I'll be scraping under my couch to see what I get pick up.
I used to be a huge RPG'er, and I love getting additional fluff, even if I never play a game of the RPG.

**Dentry**

Will the miniatures available through the kickstarter be add-ons and/or stretch goals? Or are they expected to be part of certain pledge levels?

Gonna have to budget more for this than I initially thought it seems.

**-Loki-**

That 60 pound pledge sounds mighty tempting. I was worried about getting all of the source books, but getting everything as PDF lets me cherry pick the faction books I want physically later.

I think I might be in this for the 60 pledge and the minis.

**Siygess**

Yeah I did that with Mutant Chronicles and Achtung Cthulhu and honestly it's a very cost effective way to get everything in the KS.

**SlaveToDorkness**

Wait....is the RPG KS live?!

**Alpharius**

Not yet - we'll have a separate KS thread for it when it is though!

**Vain**

Shamelessly stolen from an Assassin on the Infinity Boards:

From Yasbir

Some guys from a Spanish infinity podcast were in the interplanetary and Bostria gived to them some better pics of the 6th airborne miniature render

http://sinpetaca.blogspot.com.es/2015/08/preview-usariadna-6th-airbone-rangers.html

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Second Post Addendum: So we have moved from Rock-Foot, to Rage-Fist, to Knife-Fist.

While I like the variety (even if non-tag-part Rock-Foot makes it hard for custom bases) I would like the occasional variation in item. Give one of them a Maglight, another could have a sensor scanner (assuming they have sensor skill etc) or spare magazines, bracing hands etc.

**carlos13th**

I really.like.that.model.

**ImAGeek**

carlos13th wrote:
I really.like.that.model.

You and me both.