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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/31 14:20:25
Subject: Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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In an army of 2000 points, composed mainly of exterminators units and a bubble of Imperial Guard ally infantry with a librarian (or rune priest), what character of these two would choose: Azrael with Dark Angels or Logan Grimnar with Space Wolves?
Thank you!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/31 14:31:23
Subject: Re:Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Azrael all the way. He gives the unit he is in a 4++!
Lucarikx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/31 14:40:34
Subject: Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Been Around the Block
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Ran Azrael in a 30 man IG blob last night. That unit soaked up so much firepower through the game, then lead a dramtatic charge across the battlefield in the last 2 turns to take the enemies objective. I don't care what people say, Azrael is a beast in cc against MEQ or lesser units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/31 14:59:38
Subject: Re:Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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I gotta say Azrael, as its been on my list of things to try for a while. The 4++ to his squad is the same from last codex, but now that the rest of the DA codex is so good its really worth a go IMO.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/31 15:29:55
Subject: Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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Azrael+DKOK50 man blob w pistol/ccw and some power axes. Power melee blob go! DKOK just do it in style with 2 CCW option on all models and WS4 across the board
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/31 15:43:57
Subject: Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Executing Exarch
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Azreal's 4++ is certainly nice in a decked out platoon. But I could see the merits of a 50 man with logan decked out with HWS's. Hello, relentless wall of auto/lascannons. Plus, he gives the whole unit counter attack(and prefered enemy if you want that too!)
Combine relentless with prescience, and now you are a mobile serious shooty unit.
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The most important rule of 40K-Page XVII of the 6th edition rulebook, the figure at the top right of the page. "Shake hands with your opponent and thank them for a good battle and fun experience." Then go out for a beer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/02 12:48:26
Subject: Re:Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thank you very much!
So, say goodbye to "Imperial Wolves", hello to "Dark Guard"!!
From SW I like Long Fangs and Rune Priest but, do you think that Dark Angels Librarian and Deathwing worths more?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/02 12:52:45
Subject: Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Azreal all the way. 4++ is better than the choice of USRs Logan grants
As per the rulebook, only those with the counter attack rule gain the +1 attack
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/02 12:54:17
Subject: Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The Dark Angel Libby has some advantages, People forget that if you want a 4++ on your blob all you have to do I take a LIbby with Power Field Generator and that comes in at a 95 points.
If your taking DA as your primary detachment then its worth it to take Azrael for rites of battle, scoring deathwing and ravenwing, warlord traits..etc.
If DA is your ally I would take the cheaper Libby with the PFG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/02 13:52:45
Subject: Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Dr. Serling wrote:Azreal's 4++ is certainly nice in a decked out platoon. But I could see the merits of a 50 man with logan decked out with HWS's. Hello, relentless wall of auto/lascannons. Plus, he gives the whole unit counter attack(and prefered enemy if you want that too!)
Combine relentless with prescience, and now you are a mobile serious shooty unit.
Except he doesn't give any of those buffs to anyone other than SW units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/02 15:17:24
Subject: Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Fighter Pilot
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Relentless doesn't confer to the unit.
I don't know where people are getting this.
Same with Counter Attack.
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Elysian IG 3000 pts
Horus Heresy Imperial Fists 500 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/02 22:14:11
Subject: Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Agile Revenant Titan
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But I believe Straken gives all units within 12 inches counterattack. And you have to take an HQ for the IG either as allies or the main force. Been looking at Azreal with the IG blob and have the CCS with Straken around giving further buffs and orders.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/02 22:34:50
Subject: Re:Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Lucarikx wrote:Azrael all the way. He gives the unit he is in a 4++!
Lucarikx
I agree 100%.Plus he will add a little something to the blob in an assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/02 22:37:01
Subject: Azrael or Logan Grimnar in an IG blob?
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Glocknall wrote:The Dark Angel Libby has some advantages, People forget that if you want a 4++ on your blob all you have to do I take a LIbby with Power Field Generator and that comes in at a 95 points.
If your taking DA as your primary detachment then its worth it to take Azrael for rites of battle, scoring deathwing and ravenwing, warlord traits..etc.
If DA is your ally I would take the cheaper Libby with the PFG.
PFG is on models, not units, in 3"
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