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They birthed the eye of terror and Slaanesh, they created the pleasure god but felt know joy, now the pleasure god feast of their souls while rewarding his human servants. It must really affect their exaggerated sense of self worth that the forces they created choose them as food and the lowly humans as their chosen people..

Chosen people? Rewarded?
Are we still talking 40k or did we move to 50k where chaos gods became nice?

I daresay Slaanesh would prefer Eldar but there's very few of them left. Plenty of squishy humans around though.

Yeah I'm sure their pride is really wounded by She Who Firsts preferring to actively corrupt, mutate, and ensnare humans, lol.

No but seriously, Slaanesh has already gotten her meal's worth out of the Eldar race. She has moved on to her next meal.

 Macok wrote:
Chosen people? Rewarded?
Are we still talking 40k or did we move to 50k where chaos gods became nice?

What are you talking about? The Gods of Chaos have always rewarded those who serve them well. And they always welcome any newcomers to their fold...but one must prove his/her worth before any rewards are given.

On-topic, they couldn't afford the price Slaanesh would ask of them. Humans can.

Slaanesh will always be an Eldar God and he thirsts for their love above all others.

Mankind is a stopgap until the Dark Prince can embrace its children once more.

 Pilau Rice wrote:
Slaanesh will always be an Eldar God and he thirsts for their love above all others.

Mankind is a stopgap until the Dark Prince can embrace its children once more.

Would breaking a ruined Craftworld's Infinity Circuit win his/her/it's favor

Its an interesting question but I can't see space elves throwing strops over the fact that the devil of the Eldar has servants from inferior races

 Pilau Rice wrote:
Slaanesh will always be an Eldar God and he thirsts for their love above all others.

Mankind is a stopgap until the Dark Prince can embrace its children once more.

The Four Chaos powers are not "gods" In the traditional sense. There is nothing deific about them.

The Eldar Pantheon are "gods", as were the C'tan in the older Necron fluff before it was rewritten. But The Emperor and the Chaos Powers are just.... really powerful dudes. The Emperor is left largely unexplained, but the Chaos Powers are basically just the biggest & meanest daemons in the warp realm. I mean, I guess they may want to be called gods... or treated like gods... and they can certainly make you unhappy if you don't play along... but GW has always been pretty clear on it.

Second of all, Slaanesh, being a soul-munching daemon, isn't very particular about whose souls it consumes. It, like all the other daemons, "runs" on the thoughts, feelings, and emotions of material beings. Since Eldar are (per their own codex) far more extreme in all those regards, it stands to reason that they are more "tasty" than humans.

Furthermore, the Eldar definitely put forth more effort into not being eaten than other races. A human dies, and it's soul enters the warp. done. No fuss. An Eldar dies, and they are stored in a Soul Stone until they can be placed in the inifinity circuit (sort of an artificial heaven). And the cowardly Dark Eldar, are just so damned scared they do everything they possibly can to filter other souls along to Slaanesh in their place, using their fear, pain, etc to buy time for their own souls... I'd wager that Slaanesh gets a kick out of that.

People worship the Emperor (oh the irony) and the Gods of Chaos. Therefore, by definition, they are 'gods'. Heck, even the Eldar call the latter "the Dark Gods".

En Excelsis wrote:
The Four Chaos powers are not "gods" In the traditional sense. There is nothing deific about them.

The Eldar Pantheon are "gods", as were the C'tan in the older Necron fluff before it was rewritten. But The Emperor and the Chaos Powers are just.... really powerful dudes. The Emperor is left largely unexplained, but the Chaos Powers are basically just the biggest & meanest daemons in the warp realm. I mean, I guess they may want to be called gods... or treated like gods... and they can certainly make you unhappy if you don't play along... but GW has always been pretty clear on it.

Have they now, well i'll be jiggered. GW clear on something hmm, gods aren't gods but are something else, and the C'tan and Eldar Gods were Gods, but weren't just powerful things.

En Excelsis wrote:
Second of all, Slaanesh, being a soul-munching daemon, isn't very particular about whose souls it consumes. It, like all the other daemons, "runs" on the thoughts, feelings, and emotions of material beings. Since Eldar are (per their own codex) far more extreme in all those regards, it stands to reason that they are more "tasty" than humans.

So the Eldar actually birthing this new God.. excuse me .. powerful warp being has no significance, nor does the fact that they wear Soulstones or use the life force of other races to avoid being consumed by She Who Thirsts.

En Excelsis wrote:
Furthermore, the Eldar definitely put forth more effort into not being eaten than other races. A human dies, and it's soul enters the warp. done. No fuss. An Eldar dies, and they are stored in a Soul Stone until they can be placed in the inifinity circuit (sort of an artificial heaven). And the cowardly Dark Eldar, are just so damned scared they do everything they possibly can to filter other souls along to Slaanesh in their place, using their fear, pain, etc to buy time for their own souls... I'd wager that Slaanesh gets a kick out of that.

Wouldn't you if the God .. sorry, powerful warp being that your race gave birth to wanted to feast on your soul for the rest of eternity?

 Admiral Valerian wrote:
People worship the Emperor (oh the irony) and the Gods of Chaos. Therefore, by definition, they are 'gods'. Heck, even the Eldar call the latter "the Dark Gods".

You're confusing meta and in-setting thinking.

To the characters within the 40k setting, they are effectively deities. the Four Chief Daemons, the Eldar Pantheon, the C'tan. etc.

But to a gamer, with a meta-game perspective, there are many differences.

We as gamers know how the warp works. Not a soul within the 40k setting knows that... ss gamers have been informed that the warp beings were created by the thoughts and impulses of mortals, and that the strongest of these (by virtue of being the oldest ) are the 4 Chaos "gods". They are no more deific than any other daemon, just older and stronger. Sort of like an Ork Warboss... it's just bigger and meaner and thereby controls the others.

Contrastingly, the Eldar pantheon was born of different rules. The Eldar, being super-duper psychic mofos... actively created their "gods". They are more akin to the Greek Pantheon. The are just powerful archetypes of Eldar personalities.

None of the "gods" in this setting are immortal, and they can be killed (most of them have). It's a weak argument, but given the line of logic the game has run on so far, if a bigger & meaner daemon were to wake up, and pop Khorne in a jaw... he may be the new "Blood God" and Khorne might just be a notch in his belt.

 Admiral Valerian wrote:

 Pilau Rice wrote:
Slaanesh will always be an Eldar God and he thirsts for their love above all others.

Mankind is a stopgap until the Dark Prince can embrace its children once more.

Would breaking a ruined Craftworld's Infinity Circuit win his/her/it's favor

Yes, most definitly.

En Excelsis wrote:

Contrastingly, the Eldar pantheon was born of different rules. The Eldar, being super-duper psychic mofos... actively created their "gods". They are more akin to the Greek Pantheon. The are just powerful archetypes of Eldar personalities.

Thank you for undermining yourself, since Khorne, Tzeentch, and Nurgle were given shape and consciousness by Mankind's collective darkness during M2. And Slaanesh is basically a reflection of Eldar nature.

Maybe... the 4 Chaos Powers aren't running a military body. They don't have a series of ranks in place, or have shortcuts to being on their good sides.

They're more like mob bosses... well, mob bosses with really severe ADD.

Slaanesh loves him some Eldar grub... so if you stumbled upon a ruined craftworld by some unexplained chance, and you felt inclined to shatter the infinity circuit... Slaanesh would probably feast for a bit... he may even be so pleased that he eats you too!!

"favor" of the 4 chaos dudes is not what "favor" means to logical folks...

En Excelsis wrote:

Slaanesh loves him some Eldar grub... so if you stumbled upon a ruined craftworld by some unexplained chance, and you felt inclined to shatter the infinity circuit... Slaanesh would probably feast for a bit... he may even be so pleased that he eats you too!!

Not if you do it in a ritualized and controlled manner instead of just pouring all those souls into the Warp at one time.

En Excelsis wrote:
Maybe... the 4 Chaos Powers aren't running a military body. They don't have a series of ranks in place, or have shortcuts to being on their good sides.

They're more like mob bosses... well, mob bosses with really severe ADD.

Slaanesh loves him some Eldar grub... so if you stumbled upon a ruined craftworld by some unexplained chance, and you felt inclined to shatter the infinity circuit... Slaanesh would probably feast for a bit... he may even be so pleased that he eats you too!!

"favor" of the 4 chaos dudes is not what "favor" means to logical folks...

Does not lesser or greater signify a level of hierarchy also Prince, worship and deeds gain favour so I think you're off the mark there.

Or if you offer the Craftworld up he might be so happy with you that he grants you Daemonhood.

The Chaos Gods, in certain respects seem more capable and 'Godly' than the Eldar Gods or C'tan.

The whole premise put forward in the OP is confusing and bizarre imho.

Does it burn the Eldars sense of superiority that Humans are favored by the predator they created

Humans are no more favoured by Slannesh than anyone else - they are pawns, there to be used/corrupted and ultimately bring about a Chaos victory in the Galaxy.
The Eldar wouldnt feel a thing about Slaanesh "favouring" Humanity - even if such a premise was true (which it simply isnt).
Same thing in relation to being "burned", they simply care not, being too concerned with their own survival and plans then with the Monkeigh.

How exactly is Slannesh "choosing" humans to be favoured? By corrupting and abusing them?

They birthed the eye of terror and Slaanesh, they created the pleasure god but felt know joy, now the pleasure god feast of their souls while rewarding his human servants. It must really affect their exaggerated sense of self worth that the forces they created choose them as food and the lowly humans as their chosen people..

You seem to imply in the first part that they birthed Slannesh to feel joy and when that did not happen they somehow now feel aggrived.
Slaanesh wasnt born as a plan - he/she was a result of the Eldars utterly decadent psychic and morale compass exploding and birthing their race Nemesis - a dire reflection in the Warp of their desires/needs and wanton indulgence.

And again Slannesh did not "choose " humans as its chosen people. I just cant see where you're getting that idea from?

 Ratius wrote:
The whole premise put forward in the OP is confusing and bizarre imho.

I think it was probably a joke lol.

Can hope so!

And again Slannesh did not "choose " humans as its chosen people. I just cant see where you're getting that idea from?

The First Heretic is where i'm getting it from. Slaanesh was betrayed by the Eldar and seeks revenge, humans are recognised by the dark gods as the heirs of the universe.

Dont recall that to be fair but its been a while since I read TFH.

I would say that Eldar souls are more of a delicacy now. With the same argument, you could say Necron souls are aged like a fine wine.

ZSO, SAHAAL wrote:

And again Slannesh did not "choose " humans as its chosen people. I just cant see where you're getting that idea from?

The First Heretic is where i'm getting it from. Slaanesh was betrayed by the Eldar and seeks revenge, humans are recognised by the dark gods as the heirs of the universe.

Ah, I recall that.

That could just be Ingethel being a conniving, lying bitch though, lol.

 Admiral Valerian wrote:

 Macok wrote:
Chosen people? Rewarded?
Are we still talking 40k or did we move to 50k where chaos gods became nice?

What are you talking about? The Gods of Chaos have always rewarded those who serve them well.

Yup, they've even rewarded Abaddon despite him being a miserable armless failure.

I wonder if it's possible for an Eldar to become a Champion of Chaos or even a Demon Prince? Anyone more knowledgeable than myself care to answer this for me?

I never have heard of an eldar going to chaos, but I have not read all the fluff so I'm just going by what I know.

Slaanesh prefers Eldar, not humans. He/she prefers them so much that he'll eat them instantly instead of allowing them to pay tribute or whatever.

Humans are "rewarded" exactly like Hansel and Gretel are "rewarded" by being fed. They are also "chosen people" like people who get into some ponzi or pyramid scheme are "chosen".

So yeah, every single Eldar is very sad because his soul is not being tortured for eternity, also:
- Dark Eldar think that violence is not the answer,
- Teh Emprah is not really dying, he's having regret-breakdown because he killed innocent xenos,
- Necrons awoken because they want to help other races and make it a place worth living for others,
- Tyranid Hiv Mind is actually misunderstood, stoic monk, who is free from any worldly temptations,
- Orks secretly want nothing more than peace.

I just don't know if the reason for this thread is for funny conversation or some mild spamming.

 Gunhead1 wrote:
I never have heard of an eldar going to chaos, but I have not read all the fluff so I'm just going by what I know.

Arhra, the Fallen Phoenix, the Scorpion Father, (probably Drahzar).

Also, the Decapitator and every Mandrake.


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 Admiral Valerian wrote:

 Macok wrote:
Chosen people? Rewarded?
Are we still talking 40k or did we move to 50k where chaos gods became nice?

What are you talking about? The Gods of Chaos have always rewarded those who serve them well. And they always welcome any newcomers to their fold...but one must prove his/her worth before any rewards are given.

Certainly, those quivering piles of almost-beings that used to be their most devout and successful servants would totally attest to that.

Those Khorne guys are also so willing to accept some new folks, just sans heads I guess.

The C'Tan were never gods, just worshiped as gods by the Necrontyr. They were star-eating space-vampires. There's nothing deific about what is, esentially, a mega-powerful primordial Xeno race.