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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/06 17:44:32
Subject: GW at it again, bullies small time eNovilest with trademark infringement claims.
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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http://boingboing.net/2013/02/06/games-workshop-trademark-bully.html
http://mcahogarth.org/?p=10593
It's a shame she doesn't have the resources to fight GW on this one, because she'd surely win.
It's getting a bit ridiculous now.
For those of you who the links might not work for:
The boingboing article
For years, there have been stories about Games Workshop being trademark bullies and sending threats to people who use the term "space marine" in connection with games. But now that they've started publishing ebooks, Games Workshop has begun to assert a trademark on the generic, widely used, very old term "space marine" in connection with science fiction literature.
MCA Hogarth, an author who has published several novels in ebook form, has had her book "Spots the Space Marine" taken down on Amazon in response to a legal threat from Games Workshop. She could conceivably fight the trademark claim, but that would cost (a lot) of money, which she doesn't have.
I used to own a registered trademark. I understand the legal obligations of trademark holders to protect their IP. A Games Workshop trademark of the term “Adeptus Astartes” is completely understandable. But they’ve chosen instead to co-opt the legacy of science fiction writers who laid the groundwork for their success. Even more than I want to save Spots the Space Marine, I want someone to save all space marines for the genre I grew up reading. I want there to be a world where Heinlein and E.E. Smith’s space marines can live alongside mine and everyone else’s, and no one has the hubris to think that they can own a fundamental genre trope and deny it to everyone else.
At this point I’m not sure what course to take. I interviewed five lawyers and all of them were willing to take the case, but barring the arrival of a lawyer willing to work pro bono, the costs of beginning legal action start at $2000 and climb into the five-figure realm when it becomes a formal lawsuit. Many of you don’t know me, so you don’t know that I write a business column/web comic for artists; wearing my business hat, it’s hard to countenance putting so much time and energy into saving a novel that hasn’t earned enough to justify it. But this isn’t just about Spots. It’s about science fiction’s loss of one of its foundational tropes.
I have very little free time and very little money. But if enough people show up to this fight, I’ll give what I can to serve that trust. And if the response doesn’t equal the level of support I would need, then I still thank you for your help and your well wishes. For now, step one is to talk about this. Pass it on to your favorite news source. Tell your favorite authors or writers’ organizations. To move forward, we need interest. Let’s generate some interest.
A few important notes:
* Amazon didn't have to honor the takedown notice. Takedown notices are a copyright thing, a creature of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. They don't apply to trademark claims. This is Amazon taking voluntary steps that are in no way required in law.
* Games Workshop's strategy is to make "space marine" less generic by launching high profile, bullying attacks on everyone who uses it, so that there will come a day when people hearing the phrase immediately conclude that it must be related to Games Workshop, because everyone know what colossal dicks they are whenever anyone else uses the phrase
* Trademarks only apply to commercial works. You can and should use "space marine" in your everyday speech, fanfic, tweets and so on. For one thing, it will undermine Games Workshop's attempts to homestead our common language.
From the author's website:
In mid-December, Games Workshop told Amazon that I’d infringed on the trademark they’ve claimed for the term “space marine” by titling my original fiction novel Spots the Space Marine. In response, Amazon blocked the e-book from sale [original post and update]. Since then, I’ve been in discussion with Games Workshop, and following their responses, with several lawyers.
To engage a lawyer to defend me from this spurious claim would cost more money than I have, certainly more than the book has ever earned me. Rather than earning money for my family, I’d be taking money from them, when previously my writing income paid for my daughter’s schooling. And I’d have to use the little time I have to write novels to fight a protracted legal battle instead.
In their last email to me, Games Workshop stated that they believe that their recent entrée into the e-book market gives them the common law trademark for the term “space marine” in all formats. If they choose to proceed on that belief, science fiction will lose a term that’s been a part of its canon since its inception. Space marines were around long before Games Workshop. But if GW has their way, in the future, no one will be able to use the term “space marine” without it referring to the space marines of the Warhammer 40K universe.
I used to own a registered trademark. I understand the legal obligations of trademark holders to protect their IP. A Games Workshop trademark of the term “Adeptus Astartes” is completely understandable. But they’ve chosen instead to co-opt the legacy of science fiction writers who laid the groundwork for their success. Even more than I want to save Spots the Space Marine, I want someone to save all space marines for the genre I grew up reading. I want there to be a world where Heinlein and E.E. Smith’s space marines can live alongside mine and everyone else’s, and no one has the hubris to think that they can own a fundamental genre trope and deny it to everyone else.
At this point I’m not sure what course to take. I interviewed five lawyers and all of them were willing to take the case, but barring the arrival of a lawyer willing to work pro bono, the costs of beginning legal action start at $2000 and climb into the five-figure realm when it becomes a formal lawsuit. Many of you don’t know me, so you don’t know that I write a business column/web comic for artists; wearing my business hat, it’s hard to countenance putting so much time and energy into saving a novel that hasn’t earned enough to justify it. But this isn’t just about Spots. It’s about science fiction’s loss of one of its foundational tropes.
I have very little free time and very little money. But if enough people show up to this fight, I’ll give what I can to serve that trust. And if the response doesn’t equal the level of support I would need, then I still thank you for your help and your well wishes. For now, step one is to talk about this. Pass it on to your favorite news source. Tell your favorite authors or writers’ organizations. To move forward, we need interest. Let’s generate some interest.
I am available for questions for anyone who has them; you can reach me at haikujaguar at gmail. Thanks, everyone.
***
Finally, several of you have asked about the Spots the Space Marine charity. I have always donated a portion of my profits from the sale of the book (in all editions, serial, e-book and print) to The Wounded Warrior Project, a charity recommended to me by the servicemen and servicewomen who also helped me with my many questions while writing. I’m not sure when Spots the Space Marine will be available again, but until I figure it out, I commend this charity to you. There would be no space marines without the real thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/06 17:54:14
Subject: GW at it again, bullies small time eNovilest with trademark infringement claims.
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Drone without a Controller
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Yeah that's a real low blow. It's not even like they were losing money at all on her book. The items the two sell are worlds different. One sells supplements and the like for a game. The other sells an unrelated novel.
Seems like GW wants to go out kicking and screaming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/06 17:57:32
Subject: GW at it again, bullies small time eNovilest with trademark infringement claims.
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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There's a thread in OT:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/505838.page
We also did this whole thing in December.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/06 17:59:00
Subject: Re:GW at it again, bullies small time eNovilest with trademark infringement claims.
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Crazed Bloodkine
Baltimore, Maryland
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Bored at work so I hit the link to the boingboing article. The Starship Trooper references in the comments section made reading the article worth it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/06 17:59:36
Subject: GW at it again, bullies small time eNovilest with trademark infringement claims.
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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The author's side is from yesterday.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/06 18:03:06
Subject: GW at it again, bullies small time eNovilest with trademark infringement claims.
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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It was still posted in OT today before this link, so it is still a duplicate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/06 18:04:22
Subject: GW at it again, bullies small time eNovilest with trademark infringement claims.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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She needs to walk on down to her local court house with the various evidence that exists of prior use of Space Marines in the generic context (as well as specific prior use examples like the game "Space Marines") and file to have a judge issue a declaratory judgement on the claim made by GW.
It is pretty easy to put together the paperwork for that - and cheap enough. Past history of GW should be sufficient in order to prove grounds of the threat of legal action (even if they don't explicitly state as much in their correspondence).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/06 18:04:25
Subject: GW at it again, bullies small time eNovilest with trademark infringement claims.
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Mercy, MERCY, please somebody anybody end this paranoia, who gave them the copyright? with what right and why should big corporations have the right to bury anybody smaller in legal expenses to have their way?
It should be outright illegal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/06 18:04:47
Subject: GW at it again, bullies small time eNovilest with trademark infringement claims.
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Cool.
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