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So I'm bored and this seems like it could be a fun way to kill a few minutes. What is the best possible army (or one of the best possible armies) you could make at 2000 points? One little twist...absolutely zero ally restrictions. Any combination of units from any combination of books.

Troop Tervigons + Vendettas + Flamers/Screamers of Tzeetch + Coteaz in the same army seems pretty scary. I dunno.

Brainstorm and discuss!

Draigo, paladins and the stormraven... oh wait.

This sounds like it would require too much planning and codex research. I really like the idea though. Just hard to comprehend for my little head.

Green Tsunami List 2000
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Warboss 60, klaw 25, shoota 5, armor 5, boss 5 - 100
Weird boy 55, warp 30 - 85
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135

Try killing all of this before I get there!
I actually took a whole week off from the game and just built lists without gimmicks, but with consistency of theme.

But that's all orks. Put some other tough units in there. Like some termies, or some wraithguards, or IG super heavies.

Yea. I here yer fear 'umie. You skerd of da Boyz. Is ok. We crush you quik.

The rules were no restrictions. So why not stay in my own book.

Lets see

4x Thudd Gun = 200
4x Thudd Gun = 200
4x Thudd Gun = 200
4x Thudd Gun = 200
4x Thudd Gun = 200
4x Thudd Gun = 200
4x Thudd Gun = 200

3x Medusa Siege Gun = 300
3x Medusa Siege Gun = 300

112 small blast templates (Str 5 AP 5) and 6 Str 10 Ap 2 Large Blast, that ought to blow an Ork or three.

Spaz431 wrote:
Green Tsunami List 2000
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Warboss 60, klaw 25, shoota 5, armor 5, boss 5 - 100
Weird boy 55, warp 30 - 85
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135

Try killing all of this before I get there!
I actually took a whole week off from the game and just built lists without gimmicks, but with consistency of theme.

Okay
CCS w/ MoO: 80? (can't remember MoO cost but sounds right)
CCS w/ MoO: 80? (can't remember MoO cost but sounds right)
Marbo: 65

Veteran Squad w/ Harker, another Heavy Bolter, and 3 Grenade Launchers: 150

Basilisk: 125
Basilisk: 125
Basilisk: 125

Do whatever you want with the rest of the points, 5 basilisk shots a turn plus, Marbo's demo charge, and Harker's infiltrating AP 4 team should suitably thin out your numbers. One could spend a few other points making some blobs with preists and a commissar to either finish the survivors or or delaying the Orks even longer. Hell this list could even be fluffy, say that these guys are Ork Hunters defending Hell Town, maybe get a couple more vet squads and hide them behind fortifications.

What you do not realize is that 180 models is still likely to make it across the board prior to killing them ALL. The only way to possibly win against that is to hope to have the corner or long board deployment. Short long deployment even if you place at the board edge is the only possibility of SOME survival the warphead upgrade gives a 2 in 6 chance of waaghing every round. Yes this is all conjecture.

180 models

I have almost 120 templates per turn.

Spaz431 wrote:
Green Tsunami List 2000
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Warboss 60, klaw 25, shoota 5, armor 5, boss 5 - 100
Weird boy 55, warp 30 - 85
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135

Try killing all of this before I get there!
I actually took a whole week off from the game and just built lists without gimmicks, but with consistency of theme.

60 dark angels - 840
dakka dakka banner around 160
put it in LR for extra toughness

that's around 1250 pts and it's generating 264 bolter shots per turn ...yea,good luck coming across field
fill rest points with what you like.

15 Vendettas. Booyah.

Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Warboss 60, klaw 25, shoota 5, armor 5, boss 5 - 100
Weird boy 55, warp 30 - 85
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135

Pfff drop the kans/WB/WB get 50 more boys and double ally for 4x Meks with KFF.
Nowhere near unbeatable but goddddddam fun.

What about 2k of pure Tervigons?

Spaz431 wrote:
What you do not realize is that 180 models is still likely to make it across the board prior to killing them ALL. The only way to possibly win against that is to hope to have the corner or long board deployment. Short long deployment even if you place at the board edge is the only possibility of SOME survival the warphead upgrade gives a 2 in 6 chance of waaghing every round. Yes this is all conjecture.

Mine is only 750 points giving me 1250 points left. Lets put the rest into three platoons
PCS x3: 90
Infantry Squad x6: 300
13 Mortar HWS: 780
1 Autocannon Heavy Weapon Squad: 75

There now I get 5 basilisk and 39 mortar shots a turn. If you don't like blasts I could always swap them out for heavy bolter or autocannon heavy weapon teams. Nothing like 99 heavy bolter shots a turn to dissaude you from attacking, with some basic guardsmen to plug the gap should you break through.


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TheCustomLime wrote:
15 Vendettas. Booyah.

Beyond the fact that it isn't possible at 2000 points both due to reserves and the fact that you don't have any troops, why would you ever squadron Vendettas?

@Buttons
I thought we could just do whatever we want. Nevermind, then!

EDIT: Here's a proppa army.

2x CCS: 210 Pts
Chimera

4x Veteran Squads: 620 Pts
Chimera
3x Meltaguns

4x Leman Russ Punisher: 900 Pts
Sponson Multimeltas
Lascannon

Manticore: 160 Pts

There. Lots of dakka.

The secondary down side to fliers that people do tend to forget (guilty) is that it there is not 1" from any enemy model for a flyer to stop in it auto wrecks.191 models on a field DO take up a lot of property. It was literally a list to force players to see something that they think no normally right minded player will field. This list was also brought about to see how many points a full force org of just boys would look like. The answer: hilarious.
By only seeing the list to where you have time to post an answer to it is list tailoring, which is a douche bag maneuver. Now honestly, consider seeing a player that didn't know what was being fielded in a tourney field that list. You would not likely have that list you proposed there with you to fight those kinds of insurmountable odds.

Spaz431 wrote:
Green Tsunami List 2000
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Warboss 60, klaw 25, shoota 5, armor 5, boss 5 - 100
Weird boy 55, warp 30 - 85
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135
Killa kans (3) 105, blasta 20, shoota (2) 10 - 135

Try killing all of this before I get there!
I actually took a whole week off from the game and just built lists without gimmicks, but with consistency of theme.

I want to see a picture of that army.

That is a list idea that even I don't want to see on a field and honestly, I do not own that much Orks. So that request will be "currently" denied until i finish my apoc night lords.

2000 points means double FOCs, so...

Big Mek (kustom force field)
Allied DA Librarian (power field generator)

Allied DA Tactical squad, flakk missile + plaserback
Ork Boys (20) Nob, klaw, shootas, 2 big shootas
Ork Boys (20) Nob, klaw, shootas, 2 big shootas

Killa Kans (3) Grotzookas
Killa Kans (3) Grotzookas
Killa Kans (3) Grotzookas


Big Mek (kustom force field), 'eavy armor
Allied DA Librarian (power field)

Allied DA Tactical squad, flakk missile + plaserback
Grots (26), 2 Runtherds
Grots (19), Runtherd

Killa Kans (3) Blasta, 2 big shootas
Killa Kans (3) Blasta, 2 big shootas
Killa Kans (3) Blasta, 2 big shootas

Total: 2000
Park the force fields next to the kanwall and boys, and walk foreward. The allied Dark Angels will try to handle anti-tank, and if they feel like dropping pie plates, at least there's a lot of stuff to deal with.


Alternatively:

Big Mek (KFF), 'eavy armor
Big Mek (KFF), 'eavy armor
15 Lootas
15 Lootas
15 Lootas
29 Grots, 2 Runtherds
29 Grots, 2 Runtherds

Big Mek (KFF)
Big Mek (KFF)
15 Lootas
15 Lootas
15 Lootas
11 Grots, Runtherd
11 Grots, Runtherd
Total: 2000

May not be the best, but unless you have land raiders, it's going to be REALLY hard to deal with 90 lootas.

Also, this one is perfectly legal to run in normal games

Command Squad with Nork and Straken and Plasma
5x Infantry Platoons with Conscripts and 5x Teams Missiles, as do the Infantry
Marbo
5x Land Raiders
5x Khorne Beserkers
Kharn the Betrayer
6x Necron Immortals
1x Necron Lord with Resserection ball
5x basilisks

Try and Beat that.
Dunno if its 2000 but seems legit

 baxter123 wrote:
Command Squad with Nork and Straken and Plasma
5x Infantry Platoons with Conscripts and 5x Teams Missiles, as do the Infantry
Marbo
5x Land Raiders
5x Khorne Beserkers
Kharn the Betrayer
6x Necron Immortals
1x Necron Lord with Resserection ball
5x basilisks

Try and Beat that.
Dunno if its 2000 but seems legit

21 Broadsides with 2 target locks in each squad, the Necron guy who helps me seize the initiative, and the rest is IG infantry kitted for killing other infantry. Depending on the cost of the Necron character, it should be about 400-500 points worth.

 forrestfire wrote:
2000 points means double FOCs, so...

2000 points doesn't mean double FOC's, but validity in game is more viable.
I honestly see 2000 points, even single FOC, as more fun because I can utilize more of my codex that I hardly use but do own.

Tau Broadsides & Guard Manticores/Artillery Squadron...

Spaz431 wrote:

 forrestfire wrote:
2000 points means double FOCs, so...

2000 points doesn't mean double FOC's, but validity in game is more viable.
I honestly see 2000 points, even single FOC, as more fun because I can utilize more of my codex that I hardly use but do own.

From the rulebook: "if you're playing a game of 2,000 points or more, you can take an additional primary detachment."

So yes, 2000 points means you can use double FOCs. Anyone who says differently is blatantly disregarding the rules.

I'll need some help with this one:

Lord Commissar
Infantry Platoon - Chenkov with 100 conscripts - 480

Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Boyz (30) 180, nob 10, klaw 25, shoota (3) 15, armor 5 - 235
Warboss 60, klaw 25, shoota 5, armor 5, boss 5 - 100

Tyranids -

Warriors (Synapse right?)
OMGWTFloads of hormagaunts (Points)

2 burrowing Mawlocs (?) points