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Good to hear things are at least turning the corner mate.

Glad to hear your mom is doing better; hopefully she is out of the hospital and home with you guys soon.


Funny, I didn't actually look at the bottom half of the box Too distracted by all the bits and mens inside!

Excellent news about your mom, Theo.

Good to hear that things are picking up for your mum here, Theo. Sorry I haven't been posting, but when my own Mum went into hospital the last thing I could bear reading was this thread in case anything untowards had happened. Keep up the zombie slaughtering (we just had a fun round of Zombicide last night for the first time in weeks) and it's good to see that you're keeping some wry humour going, as in the thread title...

Thanks Azazelx, Glad to hear your mum is doing better too. I'm sitting at the hospital with my mom, she is dozing right now after physical therapy session. THey are very impressed with how things are progressing here. It's a long slow progress, but progress none the less.

Nothing interesting as I'm still waiting on Mantic to send me my books.............................................
But while surfing the MIniaturemarket.com website I saw they were doing their fall clearance sale, somehow missed that email, but my inbox is stuffed right now. One of the things that has popped back up on their site that has been out of stock for almost a year reappeared.

Arcane Legion Dragons of the east.

I missed out on them as I hadn't picked up the minis at that point, but for $15 you get two asian dragons that are prepainted, still the same pose though. I am toying around with using them in KOW if I can find a suitable army to run the terra cotta soldiers as. Currently I believe that the army will be run as goblins or possibly dwarves, but i detest using the pdf version of the rules to build an army. Send me my dead treemen version. Marine for scale, terrible pic as always, but only had a minute for it.

Personally I'd run the Terracotta army as Undead, makes sense with the single nerve value/no Wavering and the access to the Dark Surge spell. Especially if you're fluffifying them as an army of constructs, Undead would be the way I'd suggest going. Pretty sure they have dragons, if not, Allies are a thing.

Cool dragons! If you are building KoW, this site is handy: http://kow2.easyarmy.com/

@wehrkind, thanks I'll check it out when I'm home.....and awake
@para, I would definitely do them as undead, however, my main opponent fields undead and that would just be wired them both having the same bonuses and weaknesses. I might try it with him when we get time though.

What about if one of you ran the main book undead and the other (your army is probably a better fit here) ran the Empire of Dust list from the new Forgotten Realms (or whatever it's called) list. I've not taken a close look but it's apparently pretty different from the 'normal' undead list, lots more constructs for a start (As you'd expect from not-Tomb Kings).

Thanks for the suggestion Para, but I took a look at the Elven army thanks to a borrowed book from a friend (Come on Mantic, this is well past stupid). I think the Elite skill the elves have works slightly better, plus their drakon rider lord fits a dragon more to my terms. I think I will use the Treemen stats to represent temple (FOO) dogs as well. Now to find a model to represent the chariots, bolt throwers and dragons breath. I have ideas for each, but not sure the scale will fit with the arcane legions guys.

On a good note. Mom got moved out of the hospital last night . She is in a rehab facility now that she is off of all IV medicines and now we are in serious recovery phase. 35 days of being on your backside tends to destroy your muscle mass, and now it's up to her to do all the physical work to improve. she has been doing 4 "walks" a day for the past few days (each 20' or so before being too worn down). THank you all for your prayers, concerns and best wishes. She's been approved for 1 week there before going home and the doctors are pretty sure they can get approval for a second week from the insurance due to the extent of her surgery. Possibly more time after that but that will take some serious fighting to get.

Fair enough. That is one of the beauties of KoW, you can do a lot of matching units to rules you might not have considered in other games,

And great news! Hope all keeps going well!

Wow just catching up with things here. Glad to hear your mom is getting better. Wish her a full and speedy recovery : )

Agreed! Hopefully all continues to go well.

It is terrible when a relative is ill, but am happy to hear that things are now looking more positive for your Mum. Hopefully the physical therapy goes well, and the desire to return home is always a big motivation.

If you want any donations of KOW Elves just ask, I have a big unpainted pile that I will never get round to and it would be great to see them get some use/love.

Excellent news Theo . Glad to hear it!

Great news! Home in time for The Holidays

Took a bit of "me" time between church and the hospital today. Finally touched some paint again. Two hours......man there's so much detail, and I haven't even blocked all the base colors in yet . Blood Rage mountain giant to be used with my Kings of War army eventually. Orc riding a pig next to him for scale.

That is one hefty model! Is any of this Blood Rage stuff getting a retail release, or was it KS-only?

A few were Kickstarter only.

The mystic troll, Wolfman, mountain giant, Fenrir, the wildboar clan, some alternate sculpts and tokens as well as the art book I didn't grab were all Kickstarter exclusive. Of course this model and Fenrir were ones I really wanted. The frost giant was another that I wanted, but it's part of the core game so I could have waited on him, but then would have paid through the nose for the other guys. $116 with delivery got it all. I might try the game out, if not I've seen a few people talking about grabbing extra sets for making KOW armies out of the Vikings so I might just sell them.

That's a cool looking giant there. All the blood rage stuff looked really good. Too bad I can't have everything.

Looking forward to seeing more of it.

The game is good, a somewhat more streamlined Chaos in the Old World, with some neat mechanics. The models are just awesome. Kind of wishing I had bought two full pledges

Thanks Guys, not sure if Blood Rage will ever get played here, but the models will get used.

In the mean time I had some free time before the kids got off school for a half day since Halloween parties were done today. Also it's grandpas birthday so gave him a call this morning. But in the extra time I decided to try a little cutting to see if my modeling skills still exist or if I need some modeling rehab . Wonder if insurance would cover that .

Since I'm using Arcane Legion troops I figured I'll use their bases as well, with just a little bit of chopping and gluing required. The regular base sizes are either 80mm x 80mm or 80mm x 160mm from the arcane legion boxes. The horde base above is cut from one of the 80x80 bases which was then glued to the side of the 80x160 so it is a legal 80x200 base for a horde unit of my 20x20 figures.

the bases are also larger than the standard Mantic bases which help with the height difference as can be seen with a mantic 25mm base and orc next to my counts as elves/ terra cotta troops.
Does the spacing of the troopers look good to you guys?

I also cut one of the bases down to 50mm x 50mm for my dragon, who then did not fit on the base, so I figured I would have him flying. so he was popped off of his base and a hole was drilled into him and a plastic tube cut to have him flying above other monsters and units so his size would not be an issue. Blood Rage Giant and Mantic Ogre champion for size comparison.

The extra holes in the base were then filled in with some glue from my kids unused glue sticks and some left over flocking was then used to fill most of the base. I'm thinking of leaving the unflocked area open or add some small railroad gravel to it as I think that is what I will be adding to the other bases in my army for the terra cotta troops.

Suggestions and comments welcome.

'm only lurking currently...

Rank and file guys could do with q bit closer formation...for a true phalanx if you get my drift

Also best wishes to your mom. She must have quite a lot of angles beside her working overtime...

Good to hear things are okay still with your mom theo, as Vik said, she has those angels working overtime!

One note about bases for KoW: monsters and heroes and such can have somewhat larger bases if the models don't fit the normal size. Having a larger base is more of a downside over all, so a 60x60 or 75x75 or whatever your dragon needs to be on the ground should not pose a problem.

As it stands, he reminds me of when my cat was a kitten, and found out that the stack of books he had run and jumped on was rather unstable at the top.

Good to hear that your mum has made it home! Your Asian dragon is looking pretty good as well - but yeah, the KoW rules specifically state that monsters can have larger bases if the model needs them, so don't stress too much on that.

Thanks guys, mom is still I the rehab facility, and we have had our issues with them to the point of having a sit down this Wednesday with the facility director. One of the student nurses tried to put a DNR bracelet on my mom. Luckily one of my sisters was there to stop that. For those not in the know, DNR means do not resessitate. If she would have any sort of heart issue they would be completely hands off and would not try and get her going again. You have to ask for this, not an easy thing either.

The larger base would be a real disadvantage as these dragons take up a full base for arcane legions 80mm X 160mm, and they still hang off. I don't want to model for advantage, but I also don't want to try and maneuver around a mountain if I don't have too. I might see how the flying dragon would fit on a 80mm X 80mm.

What about being a bit creative and instead basing the Dragons as if there were, say, an appropriately-sized unit of 'Drakon Riders' and using those rules. Might give you a bit more space.

Putting a DNR bracelet on someone who hasn't asked for it... Christ. That could have ended badly! Kudos to your sister on the intercept! Glad to hear your mum is on the mend though!

Don't suppose you're going to call that dragon Shen-long are you?

@ Para, That might just be a brilliant idea, I'd have to twist the dragons head though as the way he sits on the base is 80x160 instead of 160 (front) by 80 deep. I'll look into that later today, as there are two of the same dragons I might be able to pull it off.
@ AoV, , I actually thought about naming him Tiny Tim as one of his legs keeps breaking off.

Well Miniaturemarket did it to me again. They had the core set of Mars Attacks on the deal of the day for $25. Normally it's $75 from mantic....so I got 3 I struggled all night with the idea of "do I need another game, especially mantic", but then between the terrain that could be used in Zombicide and the fact that their will be a martian army for warpath (most likely) I figured (60 martian troopers and 3 commanders, 30 soldiers, 27 civillians) this might be a great start. Plus I heard the game was.....decent enough..... great new slogan for mantic. "Our proof reading of our rules is decent enough" . If you don't get what I'm saying there you haven't been keeping an eye on the dungeon saga saga.