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So I'm only a few years into the hobby, relatively new as compared to a lot of people. So I have a question that is probably quite noobish. I love the blood angels, and want to focus on them as my main army. However, I've now bought the c:csm and c:da because I'm just antsy to get some new/fun rules and fluff. So here's the question. How long, approximately, might it take for blood angels to get a 6th edition codex? Should I stick with what I have and wait for a new codex, or is that so far off that I should probably set them on the back burner?

Just FYI, I'm not saying that the curren c:BA is un competitive or über out of date. I just like the style of the 6th E codecies (I started in 5th, so that's all I have for comparison)

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Also, please don't turn this into a 'my codex deserves an update more then your codex does' thread. The question was about timeing of codex release, not about who deserves/needs one. Normally I would concede that the need of a new codex would be a determining factor in which one is written next, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Never.

They wouldn't bother updating a late 5 ed codex for 6th.

Hmm, I sincerely hope your wrong :/

They often last a few editions based off what I have seen. Wasn't the last CSM codex 4th or something? Things like BA and GK will be a LONG way off based on that. My guess would be 7th edition at the earliest.

As a rule of thumb, you can expect your codex to be updated once every 2 editions (more or less). The only two books that are the exception (so far) are SM and Tyranids, both of which have been updated every edition. So I wouldn't expect to see a new BA codex at the earliest until late this edition, so at least 3+ years. It's not unrealistic to expect that BA won't be updated for 6-8 years.

Ohai buddy, Black Templars here. Going on eight years with no update.

So a quick google searh shows that Blood Angels have had a 3rd, 4th, and 5th edition codex. Is there any reason to believe that BA's will stop getting such codex consideration?


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Also, I realize that the 4th edition was a white dwarf release, but I'm okay with that.

 Phiasco II wrote:
So a quick google searh shows that Blood Angels have had a 3rd, 4th, and 5th edition codex. Is there any reason to believe that BA's will stop getting such codex consideration?

Well on the list to get updated we have Deamons, Eldar, Tau, SoB, Orks, Black Templar, and Codex: Space Marines. So you may be in for the wait.

I will be surprised if BA get a release this edition.

 Phiasco II wrote:
So a quick google searh shows that Blood Angels have had a 3rd, 4th, and 5th edition codex. Is there any reason to believe that BA's will stop getting such codex consideration?


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Also, I realize that the 4th edition was a white dwarf release, but I'm okay with that.

It is possible that they'll eventually get 6th ed codex, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. If they'll get one, it will be after new vanilla marine codex, and I do not remember hearing any rumours about that being on horizon either.

However, good thing about space marines is that models are pretty interchangeable. If you want to try some stuff from other marine codices, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from using your BA models for that. You can ally bunch of vanilla marines to your BA army to get a Storm Talon (and paint them as BA, maybe with some slightly different markings to differentiate them) or if you want run all terminators BA army, you can use Deathwing rules to do that.

In any case, rules come and go, and it is best to choose an army which look and background you like.

Daemons need an update.

Desperately.

Blood Angels don't. , updating a late 5th edition codex, which is a mid to high tier should not be in GW's interests. What should be are the several codices lagging behind in the forth edition.

 blood reaper wrote:
Daemons need an update.

Desperately.

Blood Angels don't. , updating a late 5th edition codex, which is a mid to high tier should not be in GW's interests. What should be are the several codices lagging behind in the forth edition.

Please don't turn this into a 'my codex deserves an update more then your codex does' thread. The question was about timeing of codex release, not about who deserves/needs one. Normally I would concede that the need of a new codex would be a determining factor in which one is written next, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Unfortunately nobody will be able to give you even a very estimated release time. GW made sure to have as erratic schedule as possible.
I wouldn't hold my breath for at least two years. My shot total in the dark would be 2-4 years.

Thanks Macok, that's the kind of thing I was looking for.

 blood reaper wrote:
Daemons need an update.

Desperately.

Blood Angels don't. , updating a late 5th edition codex, which is a mid to high tier should not be in GW's interests. What should be are the several codices lagging behind in the forth edition.

I play Daemons, and I disagree they we need an update desperately. I'm happy with how the army plays, and I'm both excited and worried at the same time about what the rumored Daemon codex will bring.

With that said, the codex release schedule (if there even is one) seems very erratic. Before the recent CSM update, there was almost a year between it and the one before it (necrons came out in October or November of 2011 I think). I think you have a long wait.

 undertow wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
Daemons need an update.

Desperately.

Blood Angels don't. , updating a late 5th edition codex, which is a mid to high tier should not be in GW's interests. What should be are the several codices lagging behind in the forth edition.

I play Daemons, and I disagree they we need an update desperately. I'm happy with how the army plays, and I'm both excited and worried at the same time about what the rumored Daemon codex will bring.

With that said, the codex release schedule (if there even is one) seems very erratic. Before the recent CSM update, there was almost a year between it and the one before it (necrons came out in October or November of 2011 I think). I think you have a long wait.

as a fellow Daemon player, I don't have any complaints about how cometitive we currently are, but our current codex is old and stale and has a few crippling issues. (namely, the moronic rolling for prefered wave bullpoop & stupidly over-costed Icons being essencially worthless)
I'd also just like to see new options and units introduced because after 4 years, things are getting boring since there's only so much we can currently do with our limited upgrades.

And remember, Fantasy also had an 8 month waiting period for their first updated 8th edition book.

GW does have a set release shedual that likely spans the next 1.5 to 2 years or so. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say that we'll see a codex release list along the lines of;
- Daemons
- Tau
- Eldar
All on the radar right now so-to-speak and all three are in need of some serious attention and love to make them fun & viable armies again.

- Templars
- Orks
- Codex Marines
- Tyranids
Outside of Templars who are old as dirt, the rest are plenty viable, but have a glaring issue or two and/or just need some minor re-ajustments. I'd place my bets on these being the 2014 through early/mid 2015 line-up.

- Sisters
- IG
One major 100% re-boot, and one fairly 'safe' release. I'd peg these for possibly late 2015/early 2016.

- Space Wolves
- Blood Angels
Probably looking at earliest being sometime in 2016, if not 2017!

In other words, the current BA codex will almost certainly be around for a good few years yet!

Looking into the history of the game will give you a more weighted answer - you can't go simply by what editions we had a Codex in. Here's the background...

1st edition - no Codex, they didn't exactly exist as we know them and most forces in the game weren't as cut-and-dried in their definition.
2nd edition - first proper Codex, *BUT* we share it with Dark Angels. It's released somewhere near the middle of the edition's lifespan.
3rd edition - second Codex, *BUT* this is a supplement Codex to Space Marines, which is needed to use Blood Angels as well. Released quite early like many 3rd edition Codexes, due to the sweeping rules changes.
4th edition - White Dwarf "codex". This isn't any substitute for a real Codex at all, as current Sisters of Battle players will tell you - just a stopgap. Don't count this as any indication that GW were "giving us some love", as it were.
5th edition - finally! A long-awaited proper Codex, all of our own, without any other forces or primary Codexes needed, and it's deemed very powerful and top-tier at the time of release.

Now we're in 6th... but the trouble is, we got our Codex in 5th at the expense of Eldar, Tau, Black Templars, Sisters of Battle, Chaos and Dark Angels. You'll notice two of those have been fixed - I expect Eldar, Tau and Templars will see an update before we do too (Sisters of Battle have never been as popular and there's a big question mark over the viability of how to do multi-part plastic kits for them). There are also older 5th edition Codexes that, while still viable in some ways, are showing the cracks and could really use some 6th edition updating more than Blood Angels - Tyranids and Orks spring to mind.

This just leaves;
Space Wolves, who are still really powerful, so hardly need any help!;
Space Marines, who will get their Codex sooner or later, since they make GW MASSES of money. Look in the past and you'll see they've always been early to get their Codex in each new edition;
Dark Eldar, who are still powerful and got a 5th edition Codex, and aren't quite as popular with the playerbase as most armies so won't be seen as urgent;
...and Grey Knights, and Necrons, who both had their Codexes released in late 5th and were (arguably in the case of the former) already built with 6th edition in mind.

What do you like about 6E codexes, exactly?

I'd be very doubtful if we see them before 7th edition and even then I'd doubt they would be in the first few books of 7th either.

There really isn't a rule of thumb you can follow for codex releases, it's almost erractic sometimes. The only thing you can count on is Space Marines and Tyranids getting an update every edition.

Blood Angels, sadly, have a very long time to go, at least an edition. The earliest you would see it, would be mid 7th, unless 6th bucks the trend, and stays around for a lot longer than normal. So, I'd say 2018 at the earliest.

 TedNugent wrote:
What do you like about 6E codexes, exactly?

Personally, I like that they are iPad editions. The only non-6E codex that has an iBook version is Space Marines. I couldn't care less about BA, but I'd love to see DE/Daemons/GK/ and Nids be released to iPad.

They have just released the digital edition so I guess that's all we are going to get in terms of an update.

GW is turning over codecies faster now than ever. I would be surprised if we didn't see a new Space Wolves and/or Blood Angels book by the end of 6th edition.

You will probably see a BA update next year at end of year.

Until then, play them "counts as" C:SM, which just got an update.

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