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As you are aware, the daemonic gift "hell blades" which letters, skulltaker, HOK and Crushers use, used to be AP2, making them extremely epic, but now that the new rules have changed hellblades to AP3, it has just decreased the amount of Daemon users taking Letters in their army as they used to be known for their ability to ignore any opponents armour save, (Well, almost). Also, Terminators are now even harder to kill as AP3 is not enough to ignore the armour save of terms.

What do you think the AP of Hellblades should be?

I think there was a thread on a similar subject a while ago. They suggested having Hellblades still be AP, but with Rending. Also, if the FAQ does not state that the Hellblades are specifically Power Swords (I think it does) then you could throw in some Power Axes.

 McNinja wrote:
I think there was a thread on a similar subject a while ago. They suggested having Hellblades still be AP, but with Rending. Also, if the FAQ does not state that the Hellblades are specifically Power Swords (I think it does) then you could throw in some Power Axes.

They do state it's power swords.

Giving them Rending would make Slaanesh Daemonette's useless, so no to that too.

I wish they were still ap2.. Second best would be generic power weapon so you could opt for the power axe (seems fitting for Khorne and I have a dozen old bloodletters that have axes. )

Rumors for the new codex include making hellblades ap4. I cringe at the thought. Then no bloodletters will see the battle field till 7th edition..

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 McNinja wrote:
I think there was a thread on a similar subject a while ago. They suggested having Hellblades still be AP, but with Rending. Also, if the FAQ does not state that the Hellblades are specifically Power Swords (I think it does) then you could throw in some Power Axes.

They do state it's power swords.

Giving them Rending would make Slaanesh Daemonette's useless, so no to that too.

Not at all, don't daemonettes have more attacks and a higher Initiative? That would make them better at killing TEQs and GEQs than Bloodletters.

 McNinja wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 McNinja wrote:
I think there was a thread on a similar subject a while ago. They suggested having Hellblades still be AP, but with Rending. Also, if the FAQ does not state that the Hellblades are specifically Power Swords (I think it does) then you could throw in some Power Axes.

They do state it's power swords.

Giving them Rending would make Slaanesh Daemonette's useless, so no to that too.

Not at all, don't daemonettes have more attacks and a higher Initiative? That would make them better at killing TEQs and GEQs than Bloodletters.

Bloodletters wound those on a 2+ on the charge, where Daemonettes wound them on a 4, so I would be inclined to disagree with you Ninja.

 Lord Magnus wrote:

 McNinja wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 McNinja wrote:
I think there was a thread on a similar subject a while ago. They suggested having Hellblades still be AP, but with Rending. Also, if the FAQ does not state that the Hellblades are specifically Power Swords (I think it does) then you could throw in some Power Axes.

They do state it's power swords.

Giving them Rending would make Slaanesh Daemonette's useless, so no to that too.

Not at all, don't daemonettes have more attacks and a higher Initiative? That would make them better at killing TEQs and GEQs than Bloodletters.

Bloodletters wound those on a 2+ on the charge, where Daemonettes wound them on a 4, so I would be inclined to disagree with you Ninja.

But Rending still occurs on a 6, so with more attacks that gives a higher chance to Rend. Technically. Bloodletters could do more wounds, but Daemonettes could have more AP2 wounds.

AP 4. This game needs fewer no-brainer choices.

Zachectomy wrote:
AP 4. This game needs fewer no-brainer choices.

If done they would need a huge point cut as they would be practicaly useless as of that point.

Useless hahaha, I love dakka sometimes, ap4 would not be useless ask all the other armies that rely on a 4+

As a dedicated CC unit they would be pretty bad at ap4 with no transports, no shooting attack, and a 5+ save.