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If you have stealth which gives you a +1 cover save, do you need to be in actual cover to get the benefit? So if you are in the open do you get a 6+ cover save?


Can you use the stealth special ability twice? For example if you have an imperial guard veteren unit, you can give them camo cloaks which gives you stealth and also you can add Harker which also gives you stealth. Do you get the benefits of stealth twice? or just the once?

Stealth gives you +1 to your cover save no matter where you are. You could be standing in a field and it will give you that 6++.

Stealth itself does not stack, but it will stack with another ability that gives you +1 cover save. For example, Marine scouts have stealth (+1 cover save) and Camo cloaks (+1 cover save), for a total of +2 cover saves. They are different abilities that have the same effect, and therefore are stackable.

Scouts don't have Stealth without Telion. But with him they gain +2 to their cover save. If they also had Shrouded they would gain +4. And if they went to ground +5.

Excellent question... please note the sticky at the top of the page... this belongs in YMDC, as its a rules discussion.

As to your questions: it is very clearly covered on page 42 of the BRB. This forum is not supposed to be a place to find rules and stats that are clearly published, as that can create issues with the GW lawyer brigade.

Stealth is something you have, or you don't. There is no stacking of the same special rule.

But multiple different rules with the same effect do stack.


Camo cloaks give you +1 to your cover saves. Stealth does the same thing. Combined they give a 5+ save in the open. +2 to an existing cover save.

So in a forest scouts will have a 3+ cover. Ruins will be a 2+ cover. If they have Telion that is.

Camo cloaks don't give stealth anymore as per the FAQ's they simply add +1 to you cover save and it stacks with stealth to a maximum of 2+ cover save.

Yep another forum pointed out that it states it in the rule book and I just checked and it does so its lack of paying attention on my part


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Similarly i was pointed into the direction of FAQs and Erratas which gave me how the rules for camo cloaks have changed