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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/22 22:06:54
Subject: 1500 Orks vs IG
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I have created two Ork list possibilities to go up against this IG list. I am trying to create a list that will be strong against this list but is still a TAC list.
The Imperial Guard
HQ – 110 Points
CCS – 110 points
X3 Plasma Gun
Regimental Standard
Troops – 620 Points
Platoon A – 320 Points
PCS - 50 Points
X4 Flamer
Infantry Squad 1 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Infantry Squad 2 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Infantry Squad 3 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Heavy Weapons Squad 1 - 75 points
X3 Autocannon
Platoon B - 320 Points
PCS - 50 Points
X4 Flamer
Infantry Squad 1 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Infantry Squad 2 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Infantry Squad 3 - 65 Points
Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
Heavy Weapons Squad 1 - 75 points
X3 Autocannon
Fast Attack – 260 Points
Vendetta – 130 Points
Vendetta – 130 Points
Heavy Support - 490 Points
Leman Russ Battle Tank - 150 Points
Heavy Flamer
Leman Russ Battle Tank – 150 Points
Heavy Flamer
Manticore - 190 Points
Heavy Bolter. Camo netting
These are the two Ork lists.
LIST A
HQ (265)
- Big Mek w/ Kustome Force Field
- Wazdakka Gutsmek
Elites (270)
- 9x Lootas
- 9x Lootas
Troops (744)
- 7x Warbikers w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
- 7x Warbikers w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
- 19x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
- 20x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Heavy Support (230)
- Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota
- Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota
LIST B
HQ (200)
- Big Mek w/ Kustome Force Field
- Warboss w/ Twin-Linked Shoota, Power Klaw, Cybork Armour, Attack Squig
Elites (295)
-5x Nobz w/ 5x Big Choppa, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota
Troops (742)
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 19x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Heavy Support (325)
- Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota
- Looted Wagon w/ Boomgun
- Looted Wagon w/ Boomgun
The Warboss is attached to the Nobz in the dedicated Battlewagon.
I am open to all suggestions,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/22 22:56:17
Subject: Re:1500 Orks vs IG
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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Well if you can kill the vendettas he has nothing that can hurt av14. Also this guy is screaming to be hit with a couple of Mega armored nobs. Other then those plasma guns he has not ap 2 as well. Just some thoughts.
Oh I like the second list better I think the Auto cannons will eat the bikers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/22 23:01:45
Subject: Re:1500 Orks vs IG
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hmm I had not considered Mega Nobz in that list and I agree that the auto cannons would do some heavy damage against the bikes. Do you think the Trucks would be effective, I feel they would not last long.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/22 23:38:53
Subject: Re:1500 Orks vs IG
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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Trucks are good in large numbers, so if you go trucks go with four or five. If you get first turn just zoom them forward (close together). When he pops the trucks you have the ramshackled rule to help survive and if the truck does go boom then the explosion will take out some of his guys as well. Just make sure they target the same flank and hit together becuase 12 boyz will not last long but 48 boyz could wipe a good chunck of his army. The real goal is forcing him to concentrate on the truckers not the battle wagons with the good stuff.
Unfortionatly those looted wagons are going to die to his autocannons, do you have something else to use? Like maybe a another wagon with Burnas or MANZ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/22 23:58:19
Subject: Re:1500 Orks vs IG
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've played against Orks enough times to know that getting into cc with them with ANYTHING IG is a bad idea, even platoons. It looks like he has enough firepower to eat up every trukk you've got and then murder it's contents, which could be a problem.
He has a limited amount of AP2, given the one squad with three PGs and the single Manticore, but that Manticore alone can waste whatever counter you bring with one shot. Granted it only has four shots, but there's a possible 12 strength 10 ap2 large blasts there. Chances are he'll FRFSRF you if you footslog up to the platoons and FoMT the autocannons if you bother running the bikes within range. The LRBTs are something you need to worry about too, the 72" str8 ap3 large blasts will chew up anything that isn't in cover, so there are two big pieces of his army that need to die quickly.
I like the second list as a counter honestly, haul ass as fast as possible with the trukks and smash his gunline, use the Warboss and Nobz to eat his heavy support. The Vendettas you may have to either ignore, or consider a decent firebase to deal with, either way there are going to be a few destroyed trukks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/23 00:04:31
Subject: 1500 Orks vs IG
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Snotty Snotling
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Having played Orks in the past and have gone up against IG with them the second list is the list I would take.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/23 02:16:11
Subject: 1500 Orks vs IG
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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The trukks would get eaten up just as much as the bikes, if not more. This guy has a lot of infantry, thus making it a good idea for bikes with their dakkaguns. Shootaboys are also a great idea. I have to say, list two looks better due to numbers and the Av14. You have two boomguns for clearing infantry while all those boys can clean up the rest. Shootaboys ride in their wagon and shoot up any opposing force.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/02/23 02:16:44
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/23 03:16:33
Subject: Re:1500 Orks vs IG
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So I have learned that he has revised his list he will be bringing, the IG list is now this.
HQ (70pts)
Company Command Squad
Company Commander, Regimental Standard
Troops (670pts)
Infantry Platoon (335)
Heavy Weapons Squad
3x Lascannon
Infantry Squad
Autocannon, Sergeant
Infantry Squad
Autocannon, Sergeant
Infantry Squad
Lascannon, Sergeant
Platoon Command Squad
2x Flamer, Platoon Commander
Infantry Platoon (335pts)
Heavy Weapons Squad
3x Lascannon
Infantry Squad
Autocannon, Sergeant
Infantry Squad
Autocannon, Sergeant
Infantry Squad
Lascannon, Sergeant
Platoon Command Squad
2x Flamer, Platoon Commander
Fast Attack (260pts)
Vendetta Gunship Squadron
Vendetta
3x Twin-linked Lascannons
Vendetta Gunship Squadron
Vendetta (130pts)
3x Twin-linked Lascannons
Heavy Support (430pts)
Manticore Rocket Launcher
Ordnance Battery
Medusa
Heavy Bolter
Ordnance Battery
Medusa
Heavy Bolter
Aegis Defense Line w/ Comm Relay (70)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/23 04:04:31
Subject: 1500 Orks vs IG
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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Lootas to take down the vendettas and/or Dakkajets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/23 04:10:15
Subject: Re:1500 Orks vs IG
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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That list is problematic to say the least. He has ditched the av 14 which is good but added more ap 2 and str 9 weapons, almost as if he was reading this RIGHT NOW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/23 04:20:19
Subject: Re:1500 Orks vs IG
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Automatically Appended Next Post:
I have room to fit 9 Lootas or a Dakkajet or 3 Deffkoptas w/ Twin-Linked Rokkits in this list as well.
HQ (195)
- Big Mek w/ Kustome Force Field
- Warboss w/ Mega Armour, Cybork Body
Elites (315)
- 5x Mega Nobz
Dedicated Transport: Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota
Troops (742)
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 12x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Dedicated Transport: Trukk
- 19x Shoota Boyz w/ Nob, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Heavy Support (115)
- Battlewagon w/ Defrolla, Big Shoota
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