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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 15:48:24
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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So, ive come full circle it seems. When i first started Imperial Guard, i wanted something different, something i dont see everyone playing with.. At the time i had the ability to pick up a good sized lot of Krieg from Forgeworld. I've since then lost interest.. and now, im back to wanting to expand my guard forces into higher point levels, However more Krieg are out of my price range right now, So i figured i would try my hands at some conversions. I've come across several ideas online, and i found one that really interests me, though i am alittle stumped as to what might be the best way of going about building this set up, So i turn to you for suggestions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 15:55:19
Subject: Re:Lasgun Conversion question
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Hellish Haemonculus
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This looks pretty easy! Get normal lasguns for the body. For the drum underneath, you could look at a melta bomb (which should be pretty easy to press-mold out of greenstuff if you can't get your hands on a whole bunch) or just make your own (a cylinder is that hard to find or to cabbage from available parts). The triple barrels should be easy as well, just get some polystyrene rods/straws and cut them to the right length. The hoods could be added on with greenstuff, or if you can get the tips from some eldar weapons that also have hoods like that, you can file them down to be less curved and more cylindrical. The rods/straws might be hard to find at first, but if you have somewhere that stocks modelling supplies for engineering students, they will definitely have some.
In any event, good luck, and I hope this helps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 15:58:02
Subject: Lasgun Conversion question
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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*edit: Argh exactly 1 minute to late If you have steady hands then scratchbuild. Cut out 3 triangle plasticard pieces and grab two different sided plasticard rods. Drill holes into the middle triangle so that the thiner rods fit in. Glue em in and the other triangles at each end. And last glue the larger rod-pieces on one end. For the drum magazine just use another larger plasticard rod and wrap thin stripes of plasticrad around it. Or maybe you could try to cut space marine flamer tanks down to use as magazine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 16:05:11
Subject: Lasgun Conversion question
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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I think that i may head out this afternoon and try to track the plasticard down. If i can get some work on this today, hopefully, even with as little prior scratchbuild work that ive done, i can knock something decent out.
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Oh stop complaining, its for the greater good... Now get in the box!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 16:45:58
Subject: Lasgun Conversion question
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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Interested to see what you come up with mate. Do let us know.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 17:49:21
Subject: Re:Lasgun Conversion question
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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If you have a model shop that carries it, "Plastruct" will carry plastic rod-stock that is the correct size. I actually kitbashed an older edition plastic Terminator's Heavy Flamer into a Assault cannon just the other day, with some rod-stock I happened to have that was so exactly the same diameter as the old metal Assault cannon barrels, I could fit all six barrels on the model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 18:11:02
Subject: Lasgun Conversion question
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Dakka Veteran
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That's an illegally modified Shotlas! You'd need three different sizes of rod (unless you have greenstuff and can make a nice looking cylinder out of it, you won't need a third one) and one pack of triangles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 03:09:19
Subject: Re:Lasgun Conversion question
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Alright, so ive mannaged alittle work today on my little project. I havn't been able to replicate the initial concept picture that i linked up above, But i do have current WIP shots of what i've been working on. Uptop is a stock lasrifle, In the middle, we have a first test that i got some help with at my FLGS, and on the bottom, something i started up when i got home.. so far, im leaning towards that one, what do you all think?
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Oh stop complaining, its for the greater good... Now get in the box!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 03:36:32
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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The one in the middle is way to bulky for a basic lasrifle. And the bottom one needs something at the tip of those barrels. A simple way would be to just glue a slightly thicker rod onto them. But shorten them before glueing or they'll look to long.
And just a small tip with greenstuff: The edges are looking a litte bit ragged. You could let your sculpted greenstuff cure for about an hour or so and then streighten those edges a little. The greenstuff should be hard enough to not risk bendig it out of shape but still shapeable enough to get cleaner and sharper edges.
And if you didn't wet your sculpting tool do that next time to create smother surfaces.
And if you still want to create a 3 barreled variant you could try to simply glue 3 of those thin rods directly onto each other and then add the rest of the details with greenstuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 03:50:29
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Agreed that the middle one is too bulky. I like the looks of it though! Hope to see more soon!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 04:00:50
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Im aware that the greenstuff work is alittle.. raw.. right now. This is honestly my first time really using it in this way of any sort of sculpting with it, and its still a WIP right now. The third weapon down, it's still missing the emitter caps, i need to see if i can find card stock in the right size to fit, or if i need to do abit more sculpting around the rods in green stuff to get it done mself
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Oh stop complaining, its for the greater good... Now get in the box!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 07:52:26
Subject: Re:Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Hellish Haemonculus
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I'd like to see the middle one's drum clip and the bottom one's barrels. Great work so far! I really, really like that drum clip.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 14:56:05
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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If it were me, this is how I would approach it...
Snag a lasgun, chop off the barrel and front part of the scope and use a razor saw to notch out where the clip is. Clean it up nice and tight with files.
Get a bit of brass rod which is the proper diameter in order to just barely fit two across the front of the lasgun - you want to have a small amount of space...though you will also not want to go with really fine wire, as that would look out of place with how chunky GW weapons are.
Mark the front of the gun and drill 3 holes into the gun of the same diameter as your brass rod.
Pick up a triangle hole punch which is about the same width as the front of the gun on the edge of the triangle (can be a little bigger...but smaller won't work too well). While nosing around the scrap booking section, pick up a hole punch that is the same diameter as your rod as well. You will normally spend about $10 for those...but when it comes to making copies of fiddly bits, few things are as nice as a die.
Punch out 3 triangles from plasticard sheet and then use the round punch to knock off the corners leaving a spacer in the middle.
Slide the brass rod into your holes and then trim them to the length you want. Glue them in place - then slide your three triangles into position.
Take a length of brass tubing that is sized to fit over the rod (most the manufacturers of that sort of thing actually size their tube to slide over their rod). Cut it to twice the length you want your muzzle to be, then cut again on a 45 degree angle in the middle. Be careful not to collapse the tube. Slide the muzzles over the rods and glue in place.
On the barrel clip thing, use a bit of plastic rod. Cut to fit the notch you made on the gun where the old clip went. Roll out some GS flat and thin on something like a sheet of glass. Get it as flat as you can and let it set up some so it isn't really tacky. Use a straight edge to cut two thin ribbons out of that, and wrap them around the ends of the barrel clip. Cut two more strips the same width as your plasticard triangle spacers are thick and then wrap those around the outside of those.
Should more or less take care of things for you. It sounds like a bit of work - but it all is pretty easy stuff and takes very little sculpting skill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 15:19:44
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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Looking good so far, Keep going
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/25 23:00:40
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Dakka Veteran
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I'd use the middle one's clip and the bottom one's barrels, definitely. Alone, the middle one looks like a lascannon and the bottom one is a cattle prod.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 19:32:20
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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OK, been having a go at this and scale is your issue:
I used three arrows cut from Empire Militia arms to make the tri-barrel. Obiously yet to be cut to length. You can see though that three lasgun emitters stuck together is proportionately too big... and three barrels that size is too big for the receiver of the lasgun.
Problem! I may try and dig out three laspistols and see if the emitters are smaller/more suitable.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Dammit - laspistol emitters are almost identical size! May have to file the lasgun ones down a bit and reglue...
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 21:35:23
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Dakka Veteran
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That actually looks pretty cool, and you could just make one big cowl out of GS and cut the barrels down, that thing looks like a long-las without a scope.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 00:33:22
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I think I'm gonna sculpt the emitters, yeah.
Update:
I'd removed the bayonet lug by mistake so building a new, slightly different fitting inspired by drawing. Needs a trim & shape, just tacked on and waiting to dry first.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 00:46:13
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Dakka Veteran
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That looks pretty damn cool, but you really need to cut down that barrel. A bayonet lug would only be useless with a barrel of that length unless they're attaching swords.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 00:52:41
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Yep, give a boy a chance ;-)
I'm going to drastically cut the lug down, then scuplt emitters, then cut barrels. Will be easier to work with them long.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 01:39:30
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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This will be looking excellent once cut shorter. Never thought, that cutting down arrows would make good barrels. Nice idea.
The only thing that bugs me slightly is the gap between the drum-magazine and the bajonet lug. But that's probably because the hand of the guard is still missing.
And despite cutting down the barrels you probably have to position the bajonet a little bit further.
I just realized that whithout the magazine is look kinda like a winchester style rifle. Could be an interesting design to use for special troopers( snipers or whatever else your codex has to offer).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 10:57:14
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I hate the massive lug. Fail. Think I'm gonna start with a new lasgun and try again, use the stock one.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 11:15:45
Subject: Re:Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Finish up the barrel, give it a different look. Otherwise, that lasgun is "wieldable". Cheers, gonna follow this!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 11:59:01
Subject: Re:Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Alright so I've been a little too busy to do much work on my little project, I was able to give it afwe minutes yesterday here is what I was able to scratch out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 21:55:25
Subject: Lasgun Conversion WIP
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Dakka Veteran
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That looks pretty good, actually, except that it's too long.
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