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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/02 20:25:20
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge - Is he really back???
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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I have finally decided to document the work on my army.
But first-off a warning. As you probably guessed from the title there will be not only female marines but female slaanesh marines in here. So expect a lot of sculpted boobs and other weird slaaneshi stuff. I have no problem to discuss the aesthetics of the models i create but it would be kind if you try to avoid the nerd-rage a topic like that tends to create. Thank you in advance.
So with this out of the way what can you expect to see here?
I love converting and sculpting and I think I’ve gotten quite good at it. And you'll see a lot of my stuff here.
My ultimate goal is a fully converted and painted army. But i don't like painting as much as converting. So don't expect to see that many painted stuff at first.
I hope that in creating this blog i get enough motivation to finish more conversion projects than i start. So after a while i hopefully run out of excuses not to paint.  Let's hope it works.
This is the current sorry state of my army(not included are the models hiding all over my workdesk):
I don't want to flood this topic with pictures of my older stuff and there are already some pics in my dakka gallery. What pics are missing there are some of my noise marines a bunch of basic marines, terminators and most of my larger models.(and probably other random stuff) If you want to see more of them you could ask and I’ll add pics. But I’ll start off with the stuff I’m currently working on and the rest hopefully will come on its own.
But before i finally add some pictures just a quick intro of my army. The Followers of the Eternal Siren are a heavy slaanesh inspired noise marine style army. Lots of noise weapons and decorated armor. The army is lead by (and named after) a powerfull Keeper of Secret – The Eternal Siren. The army isn't entirely female but as their leader prefers the female form she surrounds herself with mostly female marines. Her first chosen where female to begin with or have been reshaped after her image through the possessed armor. Armor thar where bathed in The Eternal Siren's essence over thousand of years. Due to an alternative way of creating warp-infused astartes 'facsimiles' The Followers can recruit from both genders. (But with a mortality rate that is incredible high and those that survive often degenerate into ravaging possessed.)
For a more in depth background click on the spoiler tag. But I'll also add to the background later on as i work on my army.
And to finally get the ball rolling this is what I’m currently working on:
You might have seen those possessed in my topic in the modelling area. But I'll continue updating them here. If you want more pics of the building process go to my gallery of better to this topic
What shoulder guard do you prefer?
This one lately got a set of fingers and claws. The other hand still needs claws. I will also cut the claws a little bit so that they look somewhat like bones. What's your opinion - especially on the fingers?
I still don't know what to do with his chest and arms (or keep the current one) and heads. One suggestion was to pair the massive arm with an atrophied one. What's your opinion?
This one is now complete but added to finish the whole set.
This is my newest addition into the possessed family. The goal is to create a reptile-like appearance. This is my first try for a scenic pose. He is supposed to have the left arm bent backwards - with the ripped shoulder guard of his prey in his hand.
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This one is supposed to be the champion of my havoc squad. But i am still undecided what weapon-design to put on them. So the champion only leads a bunch of legs into battle.
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Those ladies are on my todo pile for some time but i plan on working on them again soon.
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And another project of mine i quite like. They started as dark vengance termies and now on a deep dive directly into the debauched embrace of slaanesh. They are intended as cult terminator of slaanesh. So ill replace the combibolter with noise weaponry. It's not wysiwyg but cooler that way.
Comments and critique are welcome. And if you have interesting ideas for other stuff i could add to my army just throw it at me. (painting doesn't count here  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/02 20:35:15
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Battleship Captain
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i want to be the first to say.. DAMN YOUR GREEN STUFF SKILLS ARE IMPRESSIVE. i am here to watch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/02 21:02:42
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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*claps*
Here here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/02 21:26:51
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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I like the work you've done & the fluff, very nice. I seen this in the modelling section so its nice to see its made its way here
As far as the shoulder pads go, if you're still taking opinions my vote is 5  It looks more Slaanesh, fits with the work you've done with the Terminators, plus if the Possessed are the product of centuries of expose to your warband's leader then that gives plenty of time for the armour to be affected by the malign influence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 17:45:47
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Thanks for the responces. And i think i'll go with option 5. I just need to make a fitting pair for the other side before i add them. And i'll also try to add the headless marine to the models tail so that it coils around him. But for that i have to create a compressed and splintered power armor otherwise it won't fit. if that is done I'll can finally add the arms. So until then you still can post opinions on his shoulders. And as far as shoulders go I've made a pic of some of my converted ones just to show off.  There is also a wip havoc launcher in it that will be magnetized to my scratch build rhino. I am also in the process of building an .... errr special weapon mount for it. Might put pictures of it here if i'm done with it. Speaking of rhinos. I have ordered some rhino bitz and robogear kits to build spider leged rhinos. This is just a mockup and the legs need to be fitted into the sidearmor more. But whats your opinion of the idea? And i also finished the body of my chosen champion. I might add a cloak later on but for now he is finished. Both his arms are magnetized so if i can change his wargear if i want to. But this might collide with a cloak so until i feel comfortable with creating cloaks i'll think about it. And finally a quick update on my noise terminators. I've sculpted more screaming faces onto them and added cables to the one I did yesterday.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 18:13:19
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Nice work on the Champion. For the Rhino I think both the legs and the tracks (even the wheels) look a wee bit redundant. If you replaced the wheels the tracks go on with the legs that might look more suitable - either as a Dark Mechanicus crafted Rhino, or one that has mutated over the millenia.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 19:41:36
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Yeah. My goal was to mutate the rhino. And the track wheels will be cut away. I don't even have the tracks as i ordered just the sides and floor from a bits shop. The rest will be scratchbuild with a more mutated look of semi-organic metal and such.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 19:56:07
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Holy Zod, you are damn good!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/04 20:14:25
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Thanks.
And i have another update for you.
This possessed is nearly finished now. The head and arms are glued. The only thing missing are his shoulder guard. The left shoulder is already sculpted. (you can see it on his earlier other pictures). But i need a matching one for the right and attach both.
As an experiment is build those small speaker boxes. I like how they turned out and i'll probably build som more and attach them to my noise marines and noise terminators. And working on them reminded me that i still need 5 noise weapons. So I decided to build some more mutated ones.
I also experimented with sculpting more realistic propotioned figures out of fimo. They are still in a very early stage but some might turn into more cultists or slaveboys and -girls for objective markers. We'll see what i come up with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/04 20:27:03
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Fixture of Dakka
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Wow your GS and conversion skills are excellent, love what you've done with the terminators.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/04 21:51:58
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Fixture of Dakka
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Excellent sculpting, loving this stuff. Keen to see how you progress with the spiderhinos...
I'll be watching this...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/04 23:42:59
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Fresh-Faced New User
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What incredible work! You must have an amazing amount of patience. I recently completed a marine chapter built largely from bitz and rescued models (pics on my blog if anyone's interested: wargames-wasteland.blogspot.co.uk). It took me forever as there was a lot of conversion and magnetising required to pull off all the repairs required, but was a paltry exercise compared to what you've achieved here. Well done!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/05 01:30:31
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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monkeytroll wrote:Excellent sculpting, loving this stuff. Keen to see how you progress with the spiderhinos...
Thanks.
The problem I have with the rhino is to find a good design. It should look organic and mechanic at the same time without drifting to much into just beeing random - like nurgle fleshy bits or the typical tentacles. But i've looked at art from giger and maybe I'll find some inspiration there.
0ldman wrote:What incredible work! You must have an amazing amount of patience.
Thank you too.
To be honest. I don't want to think about how much hours I spent on just a handfull if plastic soldiers ... It's crazy. Even more so if you knew that i started sculpting just because i was to cheap to actually buy bitz and kitbash them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/05 03:56:19
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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For all I care you could be making a Korn worshiping grey knights cult. You have great sculpting ability so keep it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/05 21:03:52
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Absolutely amazing. I think I might have to give up trying GS after seeing these.
Quick question, is the clawed vehicle next to your rhino a counts-as vindicator?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/05 23:31:28
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Freytag93 wrote:Absolutely amazing. I think I might have to give up trying GS after seeing these.
Quick question, is the clawed vehicle next to your rhino a counts-as vindicator?
Thanks. And don't stop with GS. You need time to get good at it. Three tipps that helped me get to that stage.
1. Wet your tools. (I lick mine. But water from a wet piece of cloth or vaseline also works. Just don't overdo it.)
2. Work in layers. Don't try to do too much in one go.
3. Be cheap.  Don't buy you HQ models but build them out of regular ones and try to sculpt as close as you can get to the HQ of your choise.
Yes. The vehicle is supposed to be a vindicator. But currently the model is on my todo pile. If i have GS that is already to firm to work fine details with I'll add another muscle or other organic part on his legs. (In essence he's my GS junk bin.
Here is another angle of him also with a mockup of his leg armor he might get if I start working on him again. My idea was to represent his origin as tank through adding tank tracks onto his legs. But I don't know how that would look ...
As far as updates go I have nothing that exiting to show. I worked a little on my noise weapons and added some minor details on the termies. You know that the terminator are nearly finished if you apply the 80/20 rule. The last 20% take 80% of the time ...
I also tried to sketch some concepts for my spider rhinos. But nothing workeable came out of it. Instead i created these two sketches. But for now i placed them on my todo pile. On is a Subjugator Slaanesh scout titan the other is a non dragonified heldrake. Those skecthes show the actual scale of those so you can estimate how large they would be. using the size of a A4 sheet of paper.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/05 23:45:43
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Fixture of Dakka
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Like the look of the heldrake...
For the rhino have you thought about using the wheels as the initial 'hinge' joints for the legs, then the track idea you mentioned for the vindi might work....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 00:38:35
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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I only bought some bits for the rhinos as i had planed to scratchbuild the rest. So no tracks from me ...
And mounting the legs on the wheels either increased the height or the footprint of the model. I'm not a gamer but I'd like to keep the size close to the original model. But I'll think about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 13:58:15
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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I've been meaning to comment here for some time, and now I've finally gotten around to actually doing it: Good decision to start a modelling log for your CSM! After having seen your first CSM thread, this log was of course an instant subscription for me
The stuff so far looks amazing! I love the counts as Vindicator, since I am quite sick of the boxy Astartes tanks and think that this is a very interesting way of adding something suitably chaotic and daemonic to a CSM army to replace the tired old Rhino-rehashes. Indeed, why not construct your Rhinos in a similar way? I know I'd do it if I had the GS and plasticard skills!
Your sketches for larger warmachine also look quite promising! Regarding the Heldrake conversion, you might find this interesting, in case you haven't already seen it.
Anyway, looking forward to your next update!  Krasses Zeug!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 12:51:18
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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I felt a little ill so sadly no update from me ... The only thing that i got done before hiding in my bed are some minor details and the concept of the noise weapons of my termies. And thanks for the link. I hadn't seen it. But i think I'll scratchbuild mine as i don't like the boxyness of the space marine flyer. And i think i have the main body of my heldrake mostly fleshed out. The only thing that needs some work is the cockpit area. I don't want it boxy but large enough to theoretically fit a pilot in. But i might use a unarmored pilot or at least witout shoulder guards as a gauge for size. This exact thing is another thing that bugs me on the GW heldrake. It once was a jet with a pilot and the pilot is somewhere fused in the body of the drake. But nothing even resembles a cockpit area. The head is the only thing remotely close but is way to small. And if the jet was once a hell blade of hell talon (from forgeworld) why the dragon head? A dragon head isn't that demonic in my eye. Well. Let's see what i come up with for a cockpit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 13:17:30
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Well, don't get me started on the dragon look, because I think they really dropped the ball there: The concept and fluff are awesome, but the whole dragon/chicken aesthetic makes the whole thing remarkably narmy (which is why I tried to my my own Heldrake look far more like a missing link between an organic creature and the FW flyers).
Regarding the cockpit problem, I think there are two viable approaches: One would be to add the cockpit to the cavity where the neck normally starts. However, just adding a pre-made cockpit from one of the Marine flyers looks extraordinarily stupid, in my opinion, so I would go for something with a very different look -- what about a clear, bubble-like cockpit for example, maybe even with the pilot hardwired into the machine similar to a Dreadnought pilot?
The other option would be to add in a cockpit somewhere on the model's back (i.e. between the "shoulders") of the dragon: Leave off the armour plates on the back, cut in an opening (the torso is hollow anyway, so this shouldn't be too hard) and then use a couple of bitz (from the Dakkabomba, for example) to build the cockpit proper. In this scenario, the head and neck would probably best be replaced by adding a huge air-intake to the neck cavity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 15:14:28
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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At first i kinda liked the dragon appearance. But the more i looked at my already assembled heldrake the more flaws i saw in it.
As a student my hobby bugdet is rather limited. And i also don't want to risk the already assembled one. So I'll either scratchbuild my next drake or wait until i have a steady income to convert one from GW's kits that fit.
As for the one in the sketches a heldrake kit isn't the best start. I want a more jetlike appearance and all the overlapping armor plates on the drake doesn't fit with that. To still keep the rough body shape of the heldrake i wanted to add an air intake below the body with some jet turbines behind it pointing downwards to represent it's ability to hover. Another set of intakes should be besides the wings or on to of them next to the main body for the engine in the back of the jet. But i might scratch the below intake as it might be to bulky with a correctly scaled cockpit. Back to the drawing bord.
I also have a small update. I have worked a little bit on my reptile possessed and the weapons for my noise terminators.
I still don't know if i want to add a more male or female face on him/her. But whatever i do this one won't get boobs as reptiles are no mammals.
My goal on this weapon was to fuse the more stubby combibolters with the noise marine weapon design. The weapon still misses its screaming face, another cable running from the weapon to the shoulder guard and some additional smaller details. But other than that i like how it is shaping up. What's your opinion?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 16:45:13
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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Amazing GS work here, I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this blog
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 16:49:50
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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I really that sonic weapon. It looks great
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 16:55:48
Subject: Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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You have my attention
Fantastic work already, will be watching
- Salvage
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/07 17:03:04
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Yeoman Warden with a Longbow
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Lookin' awesome! Can't wait for more, your GS skills are off the planet. The terminators and the Lord are beautiful!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 22:53:56
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Thanks for the positive response.
The last days were a little slow on updates. I didn't felt so well and i also hadn't much to show. I worked on some smaller details that are hardly visible jet took more time than expected. I also worked on the noise terminator weapons but as they are all looking the same i didn't saw the need of picture.
And there is still not much to show.
But at least i finally finished this possessed with adding his second shoulder. This picture is now officially in my non- wip folder with voting enabled.
I also baked the fimo sculpting experiments. I'm not entirely happy with some of the results but they turned out to be workeable. I'll put cloths, faces and details on them and will probably use them as chained slaves for objective markers like i said. As the fimo putty is an oven baked one it has the advantage that i can add details and change stuff until i baked them. This is nice on organic sculpts like those bodies. But the problem is getting the stuff wraped around the armature. Sculpting heads was imposible as each time i pressed onto it the whole head shape moved around the wire. At least i learned something more about anatomical sculpting.
And i also want to put those pictures in this update. Those models are some month old and as that no sign that i started painting. But i want to hear your opinion on the paint schema. They are obviously not finished (missing highlight and shading, black hair and weapons and such ... ) The teal colored applications will get an osl glow effect in the final stage. (Hopeing i can pull that off.) But I feel that there is something missing or wrong in the color schema. Sadly i can't put my finger on what that something is. Maybe you can give me some ideas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 12:01:16
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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First of all, the twin LC model is simply fantastic! That head is just marvelous work! There are many people reasonably good at using GS. but most of them falter when it comes to actually sculpting great heads -- not you, though
I also love the scratchbuilt Dreadnought: He looks like a missing link between regular dreads and the FW Decimator: great job!
Regarding your colour scheme, such thinhs always come down to personal preference of course. Here's what I'd do differently, though:
1.) Both the purple and gold are a tad too light in my opinion, making the models look too toylike in appearance. I'd try significantly darker versions of either colour (or maybe even both). In any case, the armour trim needs to be quite a bit darker. Here's the only Slaaneshi model I ever painted to illustrate my point:
In hindsight, I coud have used a slightly lighter tone of purple, but the guy doesn't look like a toy at all.
2.) While light blue can make for stunning contrasts (and great OSL effects), I'd personally keep it to very few areas, such as Plasma coils, Lightning Claws etc.
3.) By the same token, I'd lose the red for cloth and replace it with a more neutral colour like grey or a greyish blue. With both the red and light blue in place, the minis end up looking far too busy, and you're obscuring the main contrast (purple/gold) on the model.
4.) Maybe you should try a lighter, more alabaster-like skin colour as well (compare my Champion above), but that is purely a matter of personal preference.
5.) You should definitely use washes on both the silver and golden parts to add some shadows and make the metal look more like metal. I'd go with Nuln Oil for the silver and Agrax Earthshade (or, if you can still get it, Gryphonne Sepia) for the gold.
Anyway, hope this helps! Looking forward to the next update!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 20:33:16
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Thanks. And i'm quite proud of the head myself. It is my latest and most detailed one. But i have a history of sculpting bad heads. But as i generally sculpt them onto the pin of a needle i can only use the good ones. The bad ones get their face scratched off and and a sculpted mask of som sort.
In the second picture the opera mask, chaos star mask and the "shogun" mouth mask are such reused flawed heads.
Paintingwise you are probably right. Those don't have the grimdark grittyness that fits so well for chaos models. And to clarify. The red cloths were originally intended to differenciat the counts as khorne berzerker models from the rest. But as those aren't troops choise anymore i will probably never field them in my slaanesh themed army especially with the ability to build a cheap basic marine melee blob. I might still use red cloths on some squads but I'll have to remember keeping the light blue osl ones away from them.
I won't change the skin color of the ones already painted but mostly because I'm proud of how the skin turned out. On my other models I'll try a more lighter skin tone. I had thought about it before but didn't trust my painting skill to get the feel for such a unnatural colorset. But at the end it'll look better and more chaosy and slaaneshi.
I know that those models are unwashed. I wanted to wash them but as i didn't liked the outcome of the whole schema i never got to that point.
I don't have something for an update as i have a very slow day and didn't want to ruin the stuff that is already on the way with uninspired details. But instead i will throw something from my gallery in here. Those are some of my earlier scratchbuilds, slaanesh themed counts as obliterator and mutilator. I never liked those bulky nurgly obliterator models and the multilator are just a cheap reproduction with different arms. (They could have at least give them some new torso variance. Why reuse those bulky things, GW?)
These models are together with my keeper of secrets the longest still unfinished projects. They have seen all my stages of sculpting experience with all the changes and returns of different sculpting putty and styles and are full of flaws and simple designs. (And still are unfinished ... ) I didn't like the bulky oblits but i wanted to keep the mass. So those are quite large compared to marines or even terminator. They are still 2 or 3 heads larger than my scaled up noise terminators.
What are your opinions on those?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 22:47:00
Subject: Re:Doomhammer's warpforge of female CSM
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, I like the way they have mass, yet aren't so bulky as to not really fit the slaaneshi mould.....and the cable limbs are very cool
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