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That's why you play with people who are better than you (teams). If you can't learn from a knockout punch on yourself, watch your friend do it to someone else.

The problem with that is that the other guys are like lions stalking a herd of gazelles; they'll pick off the weaker ones. I can't learn if my lack of experience is exploited every game.

It's really not so bad, try out custom games. There are plenty of noob-intermediate rooms being made, or you can host your own.

Personally I think people should be able to earn experience in custom games..

They can in Retribution

Just do ranked team battle games, after 10 you will be done with your placement matches and settle into your natural skill level. Of course, if you can't rofl-stomp a "hard" computer, then that natural skill level is going to be pretty low.

As for the computer ninja capping, yea, that's what it does, and its annoying. Playing real people, they don't really do that very much. However, they will destroy your generators all the time, because that is a very powerful tactic to deny power, which you NEED to tech and make more powerful units. So be ready to protect them. Flamethrowers do terrible terrible damage to gens, so keep that in mind if your enemy rolls up to your power farm with flamers.

Even if a hard computer is ninja capping you, you should be able to absolutely stomp it no problem before you think about going online. My first few games online were awful, you will get lit up and lose squads left and right. I'd suggest you watch some casts first http://www.youtube.com/HarlequinCasts while they won't make you better right away, they will help you get a handle on what playing against real people is like.

SMs, for one, are very vulnerable to melee in the first few minutes of the game, I've learned this the hard way.

Yeah, I hate Eldar especially.. damned Banshees.

I have to admit, I have far less trouble with banshees than swarms of gaunts/slugga boys/tics. Banshees drop like flies, and I can usually catch them with shotgun blast from my scouts, and there is generally only 1 squad of them. If a Nid or Ork player goes 2x slugga/horms, I am in a world of hurt. Thankfully with the changes to CSM, they rarely go double tics.

Once horms get upgraded with adrenals, its even harder to keep them off.

That's why suppression is so useful.. but very vulnerable and unlikely to kill many.

Yea these specific things are pretty important, and you won't really know about it till you play a bunch of games and/or watch some replays.

Gamereplays just had a tournament, and there are a lot of good casts on that link I posted.

DLC for Retribution has just been announced as the Dark Angels. It will be available to download on the 6th April and fans will be able to purchase a custom Dark Angels Space Marine chapter for use in the multiplayer game.

For all the details on what the DLC will include and a link to screenshots check them out here.

Yeah, I just saw that and though "That's a really awesome thing to do, I'd totally buy that!"

Then I saw it was $7.50.

What is this, rip-off DLC year or something?

Looks cool. I might get it.


Depending on the cost, that is. If it's anything over £10 I'm not bothering.

daedalus-templarius wrote:TLS wargear/dlc stuff

Thunder Hammer for the captain, yes!

http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blog-post/new-last-stand-wargear-preview

Finally, a staff for my farseer! And it is an EPIC staff. I want to play a caster farseer now.


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As far as DLC goes, I'm hoping for DKoK for the guard...

$7.50 isn't very much, and if it sells well we can be assured there will be more skin packs in the future.

Grey Knights please, even though I know they don't have jump troops, or use bolters, but oh well.

Inquisition as a whole new race please?

You mean a "race" that consists of only the hero, stormtroopers, and an assassin or two? The Inquisition isn't an army even on the small scale of DoW2.

The new Dark Angles look amazing! Probaly won't buy it though. If there are more DLC's like this for more races I may consider however.

Melissia wrote:You mean a "race" that consists of only the hero, stormtroopers, and an assassin or two? The Inquisition isn't an army even on the small scale of DoW2.

Naturally, GK and SoB would be in there.

So wait, the factions which actually have enough substance to have their own army would be neglected to being nothing more than part of a group which doesn't itself qualify as an army?

It should be the other way aroud. Sisters, and oh there's some Inquisition in there, if you really want...

How about a completely new race?

I'd trade DA, TLS wargear and a few more months of dev time for Necrons, Tau, or Deldar.


Edit: Are we sure the DA thing isn't an early April Fool's prank? The DA in that pic didn't look so hot, though it's possible it was on low settings.

Or maybe I'm just being paranoid about April Fools + Video Games, especially since I've been following MK9, and we all know how Ed Boon loves to toy with us.

Tasker said its not a joke, he is the lead multiplayer designer.

DLC for a race would be an enormous undertaking, also wouldn't really be fair to the people that don't buy it since they can't use it. I'd much rather they charge for aesthetic stuff, then release a FREE race later that everyone can enjoy. Not that I see a 'race' being a downloadable thing ever, we MIGHT see an additional unit for races, but who knows.

daedalus-templarius wrote:Tasker said its not a joke, he is the lead multiplayer designer.

DLC for a race would be an enormous undertaking, also wouldn't really be fair to the people that don't buy it since they can't use it. I'd much rather they charge for aesthetic stuff, then release a FREE race later that everyone can enjoy. Not that I see a 'race' being a downloadable thing ever, we MIGHT see an additional unit for races, but who knows.

I know it would take time, but most expansions do. I was thinking something like Retribution sans the camp and TLS, so cheaper than 30 bucks and only adds a new race. It would take months, maybe a year, but I think they could do it. Also not sure what you mean by DLC isn't fair to people who don't have it. Of course you can only use DLC if you buy it, CR and Retribution were the same. Releasing something as major as new race for free seems far less likely than free aesthetic stuff.

What do you mean it wouldn't be fair to people who don't buy it?

No, they made the conscious choice not to buy it. They wanted to spend their money on something else instead.

It's like saying it's unfair to Chaos Rising players that players who bought Retribution can play Guard because they paid for it. This wouldn't be like getting free upgraded units because you paid for them, it's a new faction entirely, basically a mini-expansion.

I mostly mean for multiplayer balance, not really for just being able to "play" like a singleplayer thing. I'd just rather have all the factions open to everyone in competitive multiplayer is all. If they wanted to release a special singleplayer thing, go for it.

But the factions are generally balanced against eachother, including the new one.

Arguably yes, I still wouldn't want a whole race to be dlc only though. But that is just personal preference.

A campaign pack with a special race protagonist would be fine imo.

Personally I'm more wanting them to add more TLS characters... I want to play as the Inquisitor, the Kommando Nob, and the Lictor...

Yes, I could definitely get behind that.

Although it should shake up what heros are good at with the new achievement wargear unlocks.

Looking forward to seeing what the difference is between the lightning claw and the thunder hammer on my lvl 20 captain.

Yeah, I'll definitely want to see what the staff is like on the farseer, and how different the knife is compared to the choppa on the mekboy.