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 Brothererekose wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:
So silly question but what is the standard table size for a ITC 40k game, it's like 4x6 or 4x8?

4x6' . And, likely, as was with BAO (and last year's LVO?), all tables will be on FAT mats, which makes for a lots less dice chasing to the floor.

Tinkrr, have you been to a tourney that used 4x8 foot?

I haven't but I also hadn't considered table size as a whole in terms of an actual dimension, until now when I moved into a new place and had a 4x4 table sitting around and started to wonder if it would just be two of those put together to make a 40k table with a fat mat over it. It certainly didn't seem that much bigger, so it made me question if I was actually right on the 4x6 measurement I though originally.

We use 4x6', Tinkrr.

@Thread

Getting sooooooooo close!!! Can't wait!

So I found out I have Acute Pneumonia......So No drinking or staying out late for me. Still gonna have fun though.

Get some anti biotics !

Already did. Got a shot today, going back for another shot wednesday and I got antibiotics so strong I can only take them once a day unlike the usual 2 times

Not contagious are you?

Pneumonia is an infection, not a Virus, so dont worry, besides, in a hall of about 1000 people probably, there are gonna be sick people, so its a given anyway.

So just to go back to the Earth Caste thing, I don't want to derail thing (any more than I have already) but I don't agree with restricting it from being taken on Riptides. My reasons:

1) it was allowed in the past edition, so it will not be a direct rule change and won't cause excessive confusion. It's similar to the cheap Stompa upgrade, not exactly RAW but has been played as such in the past.

2) It's basically the only playable signature system for Far Sight Enclaves, and it's only really competitive on a Riptide.

3) O'vesa is no longer something you can easily take in Farsight lists, as he's now only an option in The Eight formation which is insanely expensive.

4) It makes Heavy Burst Cannons on Riptides a much more relevant option when running only one or even two Riptides. It's not they're bad, it's just you get hot on Nova and then on 12 shots, which is terrifying, but the Earth Caste really let's you mitigate a lot of that, while also getting more chances to rend. Basically it's a good way to encourage more weapon diversity on Riptides as a whole.

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In either case I'll play by whatever decision you guys make, but that's just my thoughts on it and I hope it can provide a different look on the matter. Plus, come on, they're Dwarf Tau riding mech suits, don't let them go the way of the Squats D:

 Tinkrr wrote:
So just to go back to the Earth Caste thing, I don't want to derail thing (any more than I have already) but I don't agree with restricting it from being taken on Riptides. My reasons:

1) it was allowed in the past edition, so it will not be a direct rule change and won't cause excessive confusion. It's similar to the cheap Stompa upgrade, not exactly RAW but has been played as such in the past.

Not only that, but they changed the Iron Hands Chapter Tactics because of the previous editions rules said their vehicles get IWND so I feel that it is kinda has a precedent.
But y'know SM gets all the love.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:
So just to go back to the Earth Caste thing, I don't want to derail thing (any more than I have already) but I don't agree with restricting it from being taken on Riptides. My reasons:

1) it was allowed in the past edition, so it will not be a direct rule change and won't cause excessive confusion. It's similar to the cheap Stompa upgrade, not exactly RAW but has been played as such in the past.

Not only that, but they changed the Iron Hands Chapter Tactics because of the previous editions rules said their vehicles get IWND so I feel that it is kinda has a precedent.
But y'know SM gets all the love.

See, the first part if that is helpful, the second is not. You know, something about honey and vingar.

That being said, it's also a recent ruling and they've gone both ways with it since it has come out. There's also no official ruling and only a temporary one to cover the LVO, which would make sense to default to RAW until there's more time to consider and vote on such things. In other words, give it time, be respectful, and hope for the best.

I do say that as a dedicated sm player with 10000 points in SM and 1850 if I give my riptides to many upgrades

We had a ton of new material we had to plow through for the LVO guys, and nearly 600 questions on the ITC questionnaire submission form to answer before the event. It was a massive task to put it mildly.

We'll have a vote coming out of the LVO for the next season and a lot of these issues will be voted on like the Riptide question which does seem like it could be an oversight.

GMC Toe in cover i hope is one

Off topic though. VEGGAAASSSSSSSSS

 Reecius wrote:
We had a ton of new material we had to plow through for the LVO guys, and nearly 600 questions on the ITC questionnaire submission form to answer before the event. It was a massive task to put it mildly.

We'll have a vote coming out of the LVO for the next season and a lot of these issues will be voted on like the Riptide question which does seem like it could be an oversight.

Cool, great to hear and I look forward to the vote.

I fully understand the need for provesional rules with how little time there was before the LVO.

I'm super pumped for this event and will try to watch as much as possible live. Hopeful my internet is connected by then.

Hey folks! Going to my first GT! WOOT!
I live in Vegas so I only have to drive about 10 min. So question here, do we need to bring scoresheets and objective markers and such or is that provided?

@tinkrr

See you on line!

@hivetyrantman

We provide the player packets, we are scoring digitally though, so no need to tear them off and bring them up or anything, and bring your own objective markers, if you don't have any, we'll be selling some sweet ITC objective markers at the event.

See you there!

Sorry, one last tournie question. I can't find anything about this in the FAQ. So I have two older biovores on the bases they came with at the time. they're the size of tyranid warriors. The new biovores have bigger bases. Am I going to be fine using them on the smaller bases or do I need to use something else?

hivetyrantman wrote:
Sorry, one last tournie question. I can't find anything about this in the FAQ. So I have two older biovores on the bases they came with at the time. they're the size of tyranid warriors. The new biovores have bigger bases. Am I going to be fine using them on the smaller bases or do I need to use something else?

I've seen many Tyranid players run biovores with the older bases. You should be ok as long as the model is the size of the new biovores and not the old biovores. But just in case, bring the larger base as well so that if anyone is anal enough to complain about it, you can just put the big base underneath.

Thanks!

Sorry if I missed this, but will LVO be live-streaming games anywhere? I assume Twitch, but do they just use Frontline's twitch channel, or is there a specific one? When does coverage begin?

I'll happily throw on popcorn and paint to the sounds of LVO all weekend. :-p

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Sorry if I missed this, but will LVO be live-streaming games anywhere? I assume Twitch, but do they just use Frontline's twitch channel, or is there a specific one? When does coverage begin?

I'll happily throw on popcorn and paint to the sounds of LVO all weekend. :-p

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/01/27/lvo-2016-broadcasting-schedule/

Can't wait to watch !

Good luck boys and girls! And remember that electrolytes help with hangovers!

So before the big thing starts, let's look at the top 16 players of the ITC currently and what armies they play.

1.) Orks, Demons, one game eldar
2.) Agents, Tyranids
3.) Space Marines, Eldar
4.) Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Marines
5.) Eldar, Tau
6.) Edlar, Space Marines
7.) Agents, Eldar, Tau
8.) Orks
9.) Demons, Eldar, Grey Knights, Tyranids
10.) Imperial Guard

11.) Agents, Grey Knights
12.) Wolves
13.) CSM,Eldar
14.) Agents (2 games), Tau
15.) Agents
16.) CSM

More so, you'll notice there are no DE, Blood Angels, SoBs, or Necrons in the top 16. If this is extended to the top 20, there will be two Necron players and one Dark Eldar player, so yea, some rather solid diversity and no one is really out of the running for the LVO winner at this point, given some good luck.

Also, Tau is a weird one as it has recently gotten a major overhaul, and those results are probably heavily weighted with the pre-buff lists. I fully expect Tau in the top 8.


Edit: My crazy dreams is to see Nurgle stuff in the top tables (Drones or whatever), and SoBs. It would just be cool to see that kind of fringe stuff make it into the top 8, I don't mean as a major factor, but at least one off the wall list that just gets there into the top 8... That's what Makes a large event great for me, seeing that one guy who has that one weird thing, that got there that one time, it's a ton of fun.

How about you guys?

Tinkrr: Link please.... also I'll see you in Vegas... Single CAD orks + formation. Wooot Greenskins!

I just went to the ITC standings ( https://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/frontline-gamings-independent-tournament-circuit/itc-2015-rankings/ ) and did a search by name.

Good luck at the LVO, best of luck.

 Tinkrr wrote:
I just went to the ITC standings ( https://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/frontline-gamings-independent-tournament-circuit/itc-2015-rankings/ ) and did a search by name.

Good luck at the LVO, best of luck.

I love the ITC so don't get me wrong. But it's not really an accurate representation of the best players in the country. There are a lot of good players in there but its missing a lot of the best.

That's simply because ITC is much more widely used on the West coast than elsewhere in the country. Rankings HQ had closer to the top players back when it was used. But still had plenty of problems.

Good luck to all! I'll be watching tomorrow at work when I can. Hoping to see at least one Necron in the top 8 haha!

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Sorry if I missed this, but will LVO be live-streaming games anywhere? I assume Twitch, but do they just use Frontline's twitch channel, or is there a specific one? When does coverage begin?

I'll happily throw on popcorn and paint to the sounds of LVO all weekend. :-p

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/01/27/lvo-2016-broadcasting-schedule/

Thank you very much. :-)

My predictions: http://ftgtgaming.blogspot.com/2016/02/lvo-predictions.html

Expecting mostly Space Marines and Eldar in the top 8, personally.