5th to 6th Question on Mawlocs and an assault question

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**Mythra**

Thinking back to my 1st 40k game in 5th I wondered if what this real PITA guy was right.

The Mawlocs blast template can only hit the 1st level and nothing on the 2nd -- the same for his melee attacks? Seems silly especially for melee my huge model on the 1st floor can't melee guys on the 2nd floor when I can move where my talons to literally wrap almost totally around the model.

Can a Giant model on the 1st floor hit things on the 2nd? Can the blast/deepstrike on the Mawloc only be used on the 1st floor in 5th Edition? I know he can only Deepstrike on to battlements or the 1st floor in 6th.

Rereading the rules on melee that brings up another question that recently happened. My Termagants charged Terminators and totally surrounded them and at the time it was said if my Tervigone couldn't get into base contact so he couldn't fight. Well I know they were wrong b/c it says you only have be with 2" of a friendly model in base contact. Here is my after question tho. It says units that have one or models in base contact are locked in combat. So the Tervigone isn't locked in combat only engaged b/c it is with in 2" of a friendly model locked in combat. Can the Tervigone just leave its next movement phase b/c it isn't locked in combat but only engaged? Is engaged and locked the same? Doesn't look like it.

The back ground story if it matters.

Spoiler:

**nosferatu1001**

Close combat attacks, in 5th, could be allocated to any model in the uinit. THe rules for shooting blasts at ruined buildings have no bearing on close combat.

Your final parapragh has one major issu e- youre wrong on your assumption. You can make combat attacks if in base to base OR if you are within 2" of a model from the same unit who is in base to base. You didnt read the whole of the rule.

The tervigon cannot complate an assault move, as it is unable to get into base to base.

**Mythra**

Nope I just read it -- pg 23 who can fight. That is why this came up.

"Durning its Init. Step, it is within 2" of a FRIENDLY MODEL in base contact with one or more enemy models in the same combat."

Friendly model is what is stated.

Hmmm....... NM you are prob right bc in the 1st paragraph,"You must determine whether or not a unit locked in is also engaged."

**Happyjew**

Mythra wrote:
Nope I just read it -- pg 23 who can fight. That is why this came up.

"Durning its Init. Step, it is within 2" of a FRIENDLY MODEL in base contact with one or more enemy models in the same combat."

Friendly model is what is stated.

Right, however, to get into assault initially, one model from the unit has to get into base contact.

**Mythra**

I was thinking you just couldn't assault but you would be engaged. But like I said it does mention it for units locked in combat models then determine if they are engaged. Doh oh well.