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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 11:21:08
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Furious Raptor
Gothenburg, Sweden
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Can a techmarine bolster the defence of a bought fortification? The codex says that any ruin can be bolstered but since it is before fortifications went into play I´m not sure.
Whaddaya think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 11:31:32
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Covered in the FAQ, from memory, with an answer of "no"
For corrolary the Chaos counterpart cannot affect the terrain cover save of an opponents fortifications either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 12:09:46
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Furious Raptor
Gothenburg, Sweden
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I just checked the latest FAQ update (feb -13) and it doesn´t say anything about not being able to do it, just that a Techmarine can increase the effectiveness of cover, reinforcing crumbling walls and re-welding badly damaged spars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 12:11:30
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Then if you have bought a piece of terrain he can improve, then looks like you can go for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 12:30:59
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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None of the fortifications are ruins, so the ruin specific techmarines can't reinforce fortifications.
The new Dark Angels techmarines who can reinforce non-ruin terrain specifically say they cannot reinforce bought terrain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 15:16:07
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Furious Raptor
Gothenburg, Sweden
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Drunkspleen wrote:None of the fortifications are ruins, so the ruin specific techmarines can't reinforce fortifications.
The new Dark Angels techmarines who can reinforce non-ruin terrain specifically say they cannot reinforce bought terrain.
but that´s another codex and shouldn´t apply...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 15:31:27
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Last I checked, you couldn't bolster a terrain piece you purchased.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 15:52:09
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Luusormi wrote: Drunkspleen wrote:None of the fortifications are ruins, so the ruin specific techmarines can't reinforce fortifications.
The new Dark Angels techmarines who can reinforce non-ruin terrain specifically say they cannot reinforce bought terrain.
but that´s another codex and shouldn´t apply...
That's two Codexes here.
You asked about Techmarines, assume Code: Space Marines which only allows ruins (no fortifications are classed as ruins).
Later Codex don't allow fortifications either. So there's simply no Codex that allows it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 20:41:44
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Luusormi wrote:Can a techmarine bolster the defence of a bought fortification? The codex says that any ruin can be bolstered but since it is before fortifications went into play I´m not sure.
Whaddaya think?
techmarines can ONLY bolster ruins,
none of the fortiifcations you can buy are RUINS
that is why you cannot say bolster an aegis, or bastion,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 20:59:13
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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easysauce wrote: Luusormi wrote:Can a techmarine bolster the defence of a bought fortification? The codex says that any ruin can be bolstered but since it is before fortifications went into play I´m not sure.
Whaddaya think?
techmarines can ONLY bolster ruins,
none of the fortiifcations you can buy are RUINS
that is why you cannot say bolster an aegis, or bastion,
Except DA Techmarines who can bolster a single piece of area terrain (not bought as part of your FOC).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 21:31:42
Subject: Re:Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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In terms of the Dark Angel Techmarine - it's a change in the wording that would otherwise have allowed fortifications to be bolstered, so they've had to specify that any bought fortifications are out.
I would expect other Marine Codexes to follow suit with this wording when they're released.
In either wording, the result is the same for bought fortifications - you can't bolster them. The difference is in OTHER terrain - Dark Angel Techmarines can now bolster non-ruin terrain and any fortifications that are on the board (say as part of a scenario), as long as they're not bought in the FOC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 21:40:06
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Lieutenant Colonel
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Happyjew wrote:easysauce wrote: Luusormi wrote:Can a techmarine bolster the defence of a bought fortification? The codex says that any ruin can be bolstered but since it is before fortifications went into play I´m not sure.
Whaddaya think?
techmarines can ONLY bolster ruins,
none of the fortiifcations you can buy are RUINS
that is why you cannot say bolster an aegis, or bastion,
Except DA Techmarines who can bolster a single piece of area terrain (not bought as part of your FOC).
yes i should stipulate, GK techmarins, ans AFAIK C:Sm techmarines get to do on RUIN only,
DA techmarines get to do a peice of (area?) terrain, but not your fortification,
so either way, no reinforcing fortifications you have purchased..
da can reinforce fortificatoins that came with the table if that ever happens..
not that you need it, stealth or GTG and bam 2+ covers all round
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 21:43:42
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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easysauce wrote: Happyjew wrote:easysauce wrote: Luusormi wrote:Can a techmarine bolster the defence of a bought fortification? The codex says that any ruin can be bolstered but since it is before fortifications went into play I´m not sure.
Whaddaya think?
techmarines can ONLY bolster ruins,
none of the fortiifcations you can buy are RUINS
that is why you cannot say bolster an aegis, or bastion,
Except DA Techmarines who can bolster a single piece of area terrain (not bought as part of your FOC).
yes i should stipulate, GK techmarins, ans AFAIK C:Sm techmarines get to do on RUIN only,
DA techmarines get to do a peice of (area?) terrain, but not your fortification,
so either way, no reinforcing fortifications....
not that you need it, stealth or GTG and bam 2+ covers all round
DA can fortify a fortification. As long as it is in their starting zone and not part of their FOC.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/06 21:46:53
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Lieutenant Colonel
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blah sry happy thats what I meant,
a fortification they have bought
sry, no one ever places un bought ones round here so i fogot lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 21:47:29
Subject: Techmarine Bolster Defences
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Furious Raptor
Gothenburg, Sweden
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Well, I guess I´m beaten. Ah well, seemed too good to be true anyway:-P. Would´ve been über-cheese...thanks dudes!
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