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2013/03/06 20:09:17
Subject: Bastions guns grounding test on my Harpy
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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If my Harpy gets hit by the heavy bolters on auto fire from a bastion then I do not have to take the grounding test? They aren't a units fire. It says it has to be from a units shooting attack on p. 49 in the brb under grounding tests.
Is a Rhino a unit of 1? Would they cause grounding tests?
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2013/03/06 20:14:02
Subject: Bastions guns grounding test on my Harpy
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Without anything in front of me, I'm forced to assume that automated fire still causes grounding tests.
Rhinos are units that consist of a single model.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/03/06 20:14:09
Subject: Re:Bastions guns grounding test on my Harpy
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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if you get hit by anything, you take a grounding test.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2013/03/06 20:14:13
Subject: Bastions guns grounding test on my Harpy
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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A rhino is most definitely a unit.
An emplacement is not a unit, as it lacks a unit type
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2013/03/06 20:18:50
Subject: Re:Bastions guns grounding test on my Harpy
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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So if an implacement is not a unit and it says, "if a flying monsterous creature that is swooping suffers one or more hits from a units shooting attack, it must take a grounded test immediatly after that shooting attack has been resolved.", then why do I have to test for hvy bolters on auto fire? It isn't a unit.
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2013/03/06 20:24:47
Subject: Re:Bastions guns grounding test on my Harpy
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 Mythra wrote:So if an implacement is not a unit and it says, "if a flying monsterous creature that is swooping suffers one or more hits from a units shooting attack, it must take a grounded test immediatly after that shooting attack has been resolved.", then why do I have to test for hvy bolters on auto fire? It isn't a unit.
RAW you're right, but good luck finding someone to play under those rules.
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2013/03/06 20:27:09
Subject: Re:Bastions guns grounding test on my Harpy
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mythra wrote:So if an implacement is not a unit and it says, "if a flying monsterous creature that is swooping suffers one or more hits from a units shooting attack, it must take a grounded test immediatly after that shooting attack has been resolved.", then why do I have to test for hvy bolters on auto fire? It isn't a unit.
Through nonsensical rules lawyering, you can argue that you don't have to test.
You could also argue that any Fortification that does not have Skyfire can target your FMC without needing to snap fire, because Hard to Hit only applies to units.
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2013/03/06 23:11:31
Subject: Bastions guns grounding test on my Harpy
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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nosferatu1001 wrote:A rhino is most definitely a unit.
An emplacement is not a unit, as it lacks a unit type
Sure it is. Building - Fortification. And emplaced weapon is just it's equipped gun, no different from Guy Fleegman with Lasgun.
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2013/03/06 23:18:03
Subject: Bastions guns grounding test on my Harpy
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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That's not a unit. It's a piece of terrain.
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2013/03/06 23:42:49
Subject: Bastions guns grounding test on my Harpy
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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No, it's a building. It's not listed under "types of terrain" at all.
But honestly I was just being cheeky here.
And while I'd normally agree that a building isn't a unit when placed as part of the standard makeup of the battlefield, I'd consider fortification buildings as "neutral" units. But that's me house-ruling fortifications, I suppose.
Besides, the building doesn't auto-fire unless a unit is inside it, so even though they're not manning the guns manually it's still technically that unit causing the weapons to shoot.
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