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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 21:06:55
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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His arms were made of necrodermis, so is it possible they could be slowly repairing and replacing what little was left of his body?It's incredibly doubtful, but is it even possible? Or was it more of he was "composed of the metal" in the same way humans have iron in their blood?
I am aware he lost his head and it was never recovered, but necrons seem to be capable of repairing themselves or at least phasing away to be repaired as needed. The imperium knows very little about necrons because most are either phased out when unable to function, or are unable to be phased out because of incredibly extreme damage and are not really worth studying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 21:08:22
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Where are you getting that his arms were made of necrodermis?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 21:11:21
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Nevermind, I could of sworn I read his arms were made out of a metal substance unlike any other known, or something to that effect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 21:17:39
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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I'm not sure if there is a source cleanly saying 'It's Necrodermis' but the evidence implies it fairly strongly.
Ferrus Manus, before discovery by the Emperor, had a great battle with 'The Great Silver Wyrm Asirnoth, a metallic beast impervious to harm.'
The description of the Wyrm, being very powerful, metalic and biomechanical, makes it sound a great deal like some sort of C'tan Shard or some Necron construct. Also, when Ferrus forced it into a lake of magma to kill it, the metal from it's body flowed over his hands to coat them with a metal as strong as ceramite yet as flexible as flesh.
But to answer Amudkipz, no, he is very likely not in some sort of 'repair mode', as no other part of him was in any way necron. This then goes on to mean that Ferrus cannot phase out or repair.
The dude got his head chopped off, he's dead Dave.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 21:21:27
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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amudkipz wrote:His arms were made of necrodermis, so is it possible they could be slowly repairing and replacing what little was left of his body?It's incredibly doubtful, but is it even possible? Or was it more of he was "composed of the metal" in the same way humans have iron in their blood?
I am aware he lost his head and it was never recovered, but necrons seem to be capable of repairing themselves or at least phasing away to be repaired as needed. The imperium knows very little about necrons because most are either phased out when unable to function, or are unable to be phased out because of incredibly extreme damage and are not really worth studying.
While most primarchs appear to be dumber than your average Ogryn, i would still argue that they need their heads. Since poor Ferrus lost his head, i see little to no chance of him bothering us ever again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 21:22:34
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Is it possible his arms "downloaded" him and are simply waiting to find a new body or thing to attach to?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 21:23:37
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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No. That's not even how Necrons themselves work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 21:25:14
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Although it is 40k, so a hell of a lot of strange stuff is possible, I seriously doubt his metal arms work that way, by this point you'd be assuming a lot too much about their workings. Even Necrons can't download themselves into stuff, arms or otherwise. He's dead dave, Everybody's dead, Everybody's dead Dave.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 21:47:16
Subject: Re:Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Fulgrim decapitated him with the sentient sword. I'd say that's pretty final.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 21:58:33
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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TheRobotLol wrote:But to answer Amudkipz, no, he is very likely not in some sort of 'repair mode', as no other part of him was in any way necron.
I seem to vaguely recall reading somewhere that Ferrus's eyes turned silver upon gaining his metal arms, but could be wrong.
Regardless, while anything is certainly possible in a setting like 40k, I sincerely doubt Ferrus is ever coming back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/12 23:29:57
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Not to mention after his decapitation he imploded into a small warp rift. Ferrus is really, very, dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 02:51:19
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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rems01 wrote:Not to mention after his decapitation he imploded into a small warp rift. Ferrus is really, very, dead.
He did what now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 06:02:25
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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rems01 wrote:Not to mention after his decapitation he imploded into a small warp rift. Ferrus is really, very, dead.
wut
Dont remember reading that anywhere....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 06:39:15
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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In the Index Astartes it says his body was taken to Mars for ... unknown reasons.
Maybe Ferrus Manus won't be back, but perhaps some shadow of a man, constructed out of arcane fleshweaving and biomechanical fusings with the Iron Hands geneseed.
And a brain. No doubt removed from some homeless guy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 07:11:28
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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It's detailed in Fulgrim. As Fulgrim decapitates Ferrus there's a release of psychic energy. I don't recall the exact wording but you can look it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 07:40:24
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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rems01 wrote:
It's detailed in Fulgrim. As Fulgrim decapitates Ferrus there's a release of psychic energy. I don't recall the exact wording but you can look it up.
ohhh, i just finished reading that book, how did i miss that ? haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 11:42:59
Subject: Re:Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Fixture of Dakka
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Warp Angels wrote: rems01 wrote:
It's detailed in Fulgrim. As Fulgrim decapitates Ferrus there's a release of psychic energy. I don't recall the exact wording but you can look it up.
ohhh, i just finished reading that book, how did i miss that ? haha
I wasn't sure if that was due to Ferrus' death, or Fulgrims apparent possession tbh, but it certainly seemed the former. Particularly in light of The Primarchs.
TheRobotLol wrote:He's dead dave, Everybody's dead, Everybody's dead Dave.
Shut up man! No they're not! No they're not!
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"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/16 12:53:00
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Loken came back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/16 14:00:21
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Loken never had his head cut off by a Primarch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/16 16:02:57
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Sadly, cos he seemed a pretty cool bloke, he can't be.
gak... He had his head presented to horus in a box!
That's as dead as it gets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/16 16:20:42
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better...stronger...faster.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/16 16:27:41
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Avatar 720 wrote:We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better...stronger...faster.
I don't think GW is desperate enough right now to pull a " space SOAP opera stunt" like this. But the day may come...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/16 17:01:27
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Last I heard of him, Fulgrim was juggling his head around.
He's dead jim.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/17 14:22:52
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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At least theres a chance Dorn is still alive (supposedly), however unlikely it may be. Oh well, as long as they don't kill Vulkan I don't really mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/17 15:22:11
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Hallowed Canoness
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I love the implication that it matters who cut his head off. As if having his head cut off by an ork would be less likely to stick...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/17 15:49:37
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Fixture of Dakka
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amudkipz wrote:At least theres a chance Dorn is still alive (supposedly), however unlikely it may be. Oh well, as long as they don't kill Vulkan I don't really mind.
Nope. Dorn's dead too, the Fists have his body (more than just his hand; they simply use only the hand for scrimshaw). Vulkan looks to be alive though.
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"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/17 16:31:11
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Furyou Miko wrote:
I love the implication that it matters who cut his head off. As if having his head cut off by an ork would be less likely to stick...
I should really have made it clearer, it's not the fact that it was Fulgrim who cut it off, it's what he did with the head that matters (Give it to Horus as a trophy), that's what's important about a Primarch chopping his bonce off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 09:41:58
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nope, he just got hammered by the First Captain wearing terminator armour then had a building fall on him and then an orbital bombardment and then months of living on a lifeless world killed by the life-eater virus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 19:54:26
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Avatar 720 wrote:We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better...stronger...faster.
They can rebuild him, sure (or could have, 10,000 years ago)... but cybernetic resurrection is not a pretty picture. You're stronger, sure... definitely not faster. Stealth goes right out. You can't swim. You need a mechanic, not a doctor, for any combat injuries.... the list goes on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/18 22:11:10
Subject: Could ferrus still be "alive" or in a "repair mode"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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All the primarchs are dead since GW is never going to use them for anything relevant in the 41st milennium anyway.
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