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So, like the title says, I'm a little bit tired of playing space marines. That being said, I'm a Blood Angels Player and will continue to be so. However, I realized its going to be a while till I see anything new on the BA front. So I'd like to get some allies for my BA list. I'm thinking I might wait for the next eldar codex, or maybe the tau. I'm not really sure which one to go with. Space Marines have a lack of interesting units. They are all space marines. I'd like some flavor to add to my lists, where should I get it from?

Tau rumoured to get a next codex soon, they are not power armor army but they got some, Eldar does have some aswell and avaible to get rerollable too But as for flavour to your Spacemarines, you could try new tactics there are many ways to go with the most open codex in the game. (imho)

you could always pull a Matt Ward and pick up some Necrons...

As much as I'd love to do that, I love the meme people made of the BA/Necron fist bump, Necrons are similar enough to space marines that I'd prefer to go with something more exotic.

like Tau?

I can sot of see a BA/Tau thing going on there, depending on the new dex.

Also assuming you play assaulty Angels, then you just need some DeepStrikers to give target priority shenanigans

Orks or Guard.

Guard because it has a lot of interesting units that can add variety to a Marine army while actually still being quite fluffy.

Orks because artistically speaking, you can do almost anything with them.

Nids (maybe demons) are about as far removed from marine armies as you can get. They play entirely different and have pretty much zero crossover in unit/wargear equivalents.

Guards as they don't need no stinking power armor.

Only flak armor and balls of steel. (also lets you ally which is a +)

but for something not IOM or humanoid then all thats really left is nids. (and daemons as above posted as well)

Nids or Deamons would be really cool, but I'm looking for something I could ally to my Blood Angels.

Well then all thats left that isnt power armor, would be Tau, guard, eldar, and inquisition grey knights.

or if you dont mind you could go dark angels for some terminator armor.

Run scouts. Dont Blood angels have access to those. I run a almost all scouts Ultra marines army. Its great fun and fluffy too. Scout bikes, scout speeders, all goodness.

Meh, it's not really the power armor per say, it's just that everything in space marine codecies seem pretty generic.

Well yes, when there's seven Space Marine codices and all of them are nothing more than variations on the same statline, they're bound to seem a bit generic compared to non-SM codices.

Exactly my point. Don't get me wrong, I love my Blood Angels, but a bit of variety would be awesome.

Here's my dilemma; do I go with the super shootyness of Tau or the eldritch awesomeness of the Eldar? The Necrons have their fist bumping friendship with BA, but orks have their amusing antics. I don't really like dark eldar because their evilness is a bit much for me. It's a tough decision.

Go Eldar. Learn to roll Fragile and depend on inter-unit synergy.

 Phiasco II wrote:
So, like the title says, I'm a little bit tired of playing space marines. That being said, I'm a Blood Angels Player and will continue to be so. However, I realized its going to be a while till I see anything new on the BA front. So I'd like to get some allies for my BA list. I'm thinking I might wait for the next eldar codex, or maybe the tau. I'm not really sure which one to go with. Space Marines have a lack of interesting units. They are all space marines. I'd like some flavor to add to my lists, where should I get it from?

"If you want to change the world, change your village.
If you want to change your village, change your family.
If you want to change your family, change yourself!"

- Chinese proverb

It might come off harsh, but if YOU aren't willing to actually do something - you will get zero sympathy from me.

No sit still for about 2 weeks and watch what will be the glory of the tau empire

As stated earlier:

Imperial Guard

Can be as nuts as you want:

Ratling snipers, Ogryns, convicts! er... conscripts!, Psionic choir, massive amounts of grunts, vehicles, aircraft, walkers. There are so many opportunities to convert models and write any fluff you want and make it work with your BA army.

You could call them thralls to add a twist to the BA army.

Steelmage99 wrote:

 Phiasco II wrote:
So, like the title says, I'm a little bit tired of playing space marines. That being said, I'm a Blood Angels Player and will continue to be so. However, I realized its going to be a while till I see anything new on the BA front. So I'd like to get some allies for my BA list. I'm thinking I might wait for the next eldar codex, or maybe the tau. I'm not really sure which one to go with. Space Marines have a lack of interesting units. They are all space marines. I'd like some flavor to add to my lists, where should I get it from?

"If you want to change the world, change your village.
If you want to change your village, change your family.
If you want to change your family, change yourself!"

- Chinese proverb

It might come off harsh, but if YOU aren't willing to actually do something - you will get zero sympathy from me.

Firstly, love the Chinese proverb. Secondly, I'm doing my research before dumping more money into GW's pocket. I'm looking at models, reading what codices I can get my hands on, reading up on lists people have posted, watching battle reports, and lastly, but not leastly, I'm asking for people's opinions of why they like their armies and what they think might fit well, fluff wise/rule of cool/ effectiveness with my favorite army. That being said, I don't want or need your sympathy, but I hope you understand that I'm doing my homework before laying down more money. Also, I like other people's opinions concerning such things. So, what would you suggest?

Steelmage99 wrote:

 Phiasco II wrote:
So, like the title says, I'm a little bit tired of playing space marines. That being said, I'm a Blood Angels Player and will continue to be so. However, I realized its going to be a while till I see anything new on the BA front. So I'd like to get some allies for my BA list. I'm thinking I might wait for the next eldar codex, or maybe the tau. I'm not really sure which one to go with. Space Marines have a lack of interesting units. They are all space marines. I'd like some flavor to add to my lists, where should I get it from?

"If you want to change the world, change your village.
If you want to change your village, change your family.
If you want to change your family, change yourself!"

- Chinese proverb

It might come off harsh, but if YOU aren't willing to actually do something - you will get zero sympathy from me.

Not really needed here. He isn't going anything wrong by asking people what they think he should go with before he dumps a ton of money into it. He obviously wants to do something, but he isn't sure exactly what to do. Chill.


I have 3 suggestions. Imperial Guard (which, thanks to their nature, can cover just about any holes you need it to while being individual and not SM statted), Eldar (also a good choice, but im not too good with Eldar stuff), and Tau (which compliment your melee focus by adding a lot of dakka).

None are bad choices, what do you commonly use in your army?

Orks because they never save, and you get a bucket-o-dice with every boyz mob.

I suggest you go with IG. It fits the well established background of 40k, unlike many of the combinations in the abominable and incomparably terrible ally matrix.

You did mention what fits the background as a consideration and space marines teaming up with aliens does not fit the long established background at all.

Well taht depends on which background we're talking about.

Blood Angels brofisting Necrons is canon amirite?

washout77 wrote:


I have 3 suggestions. Imperial Guard (which, thanks to their nature, can cover just about any holes you need it to while being individual and not SM statted), Eldar (also a good choice, but im not too good with Eldar stuff), and Tau (which compliment your melee focus by adding a lot of dakka).

None are bad choices, what do you commonly use in your army?

I run a lot of assaulty units, being Blood Angels and all. I don't use devestator squads or run auto cannon dreads. So a shooty army would be what I'm looking for. That's means IG, Eldar, or Tau are what I'll probably end up going with. Although I suppose Necrons have a couple good long range support units like the doomsday cannon

Come to the Dark Side - Eldar that is... Eldar are fun but their codex is starting to get a little dusty.

Dark Eldar have lots of shootiness to them and cheap cheap vehicles... (We won't mention that they are paper airplanes)
They have access to lethal flyers lots of dark lances, poison weapons, eldar that have actually learned how to shoot. Reaver jet bikes that get to attack in the movement phase!

Eldar, right now, can be a little frustrating paying 100+ points to field a transport. The only thing that I love the eldar for right now is the Farseer and to be more specific, Eldrad.

Okay, so I woulds say IG or Tau as they remain two of the strongest non-Marine shooting armies plus they are both Battle Brothers. I have to say, stay away from Eldar as Eldar can be expensive to field in a good way so they will detract from your primary detachment a bit. If you want a core-force though, Eldar can be fun.

I suggest going with IG though, their power in the current edition is well known, they will add quite a bit of ranged fire-power (and objective holding power too depending on how you use them), they have some of the best AT in the game, and they are fully fluffy unlike Tau

 Melissia wrote:


Blood Angels brofisting Necrons is canon amirite?

Sadly

You have to go the "Bro fist" !

Craftworld Eldar work very well with blood angels. Go defensive with the CE, charge with the blood angels. It's a great hammer and anvil combo.

Wraithwall (10 wraithguard with a spiritseer=troops choice) with a wraithlord covering it, led by eldrad will be very hard to take down. Add some rangers or a min squad of EJB if you like.

Congratulations, sir...you're in EXACTLY the same boat I am. I'm allying in Eldar as I love their fluff and I love painting them. But I have been equally tempted by Tau in the past too.

From a gaming perspective, I guess it depends on how hard you wanna make things for yourself. Eldar are tricky to use properly but if you can pull it off, they work really well with BA there to keep them out of trouble.

Grrr ....I hate the BA/Necron bro' fist!!! I play both armies and they didn't bro' fist. But in all seriousness I would wait and see what GW brings out with the rumored release of the Tau ...I personally have been tempted to paint up a Tau army just cause I like the whole gun line unit of sheer fire power almost every single weapon in the Tau list is 36" or better(or used to be not sure what GW is gonna do to mess them all up).