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HQ
Overlord,semp,scythe,orb,MSS-160
Lord,MSS,scythe-60
Veiltek-60
Stormtek-25
Stormtek-25
Lancetek-35
365
TROOPS
15x warriors-195
10x warriors-130
10x warriors-130
10x warriors-130
10x warriors-130
715
FAST
5x Scarabs-75
5x Scarabs-75
5x Scarabs-75
225
HEAVY
2x Spyders,prism-115
2x Spyders,prism-115
2x Spyders,prism-115
445
FORT
Aegis Defense Line,quad gun-100
1850
This is a tricky list.
I deploy the aegis as far up as possible, running it length wise and with no spaces.
Then i run my scarabs up to the the aegis and get them to man the quad gun.(not sure how its possible)
they are almost totally block from LOS and anything that sees them, they gain a 4+ cover save behind aegis.They are then pumped up and protected from psykers with prism bubbles.
They can even use their entropic strike with the quad gun.
These couple of blobs protect mid field and make a giant speed bump to protect my many warriors.
If anything gets through i have spyders and a blob of 15 with overlord as back up, with a spare lord for challenge denial.
Then there is a very cheap unit, a 3 man court of a veiltek and 2 stormteks that can teleport behind pesky NLOS vehicles and heavies without much risk of scatter with only 3 guys.
This unit is a pain in the ass,as it wrecks vehicles and the ever-living rule makes it so that its very hard to keep dead.

thats an interesting strategy with the line and scarabs lol

danielbonke wrote:
They can even use their entropic strike with the quad gun.

Please explain.

And if your opponent has flyers or dreadknights?

yay, finally a necron army that will fear my TFCs again

This isn't an unbeatable list.but it has strengtha that are very desirable and useful.like quantity.there are a lot of models on the table And the numbers grow each turn.the scarabs are a throw away distraction unit, and if my opponent shoots at them great. if not then that is good too.I have a quad gun and 55 warriors to deal with 1-3 flyers that are usually played.if they are all air force I can rush their pitiful ground forces.
Weapons ignoring cover are a problem but that is where LOS comes in.the aegis blocks view to me.

Yeah you can deal with 1 flyer perhaps 2 if they come on in different turns. But 3 Helldrakes ruins your day and the 6 flyers most Necrons take at this point level cause you real problems too as you're too slow to dominate your opponents deployment zone.

I don't like your troops selection nor if your court helping as much as it could.

The problem you have with scarabs is that it means you're not taking annihilation barges which are broken in 6th and nothing really dovetails well with scarabs in the rest of the FoC. Only really the sub par Preatorians fit. Possibly arkwarriors?

 skoffs wrote:

danielbonke wrote:
They can even use their entropic strike with the quad gun.

Please explain.

I guess the argument is, the model has the Entropic Strike rule, not their CCW (which is not listed). So, they get Entropic Strike when shooting or in melee.

In melee, this is obvious, but trying to claim that extends to shooting as well just reeks of blatant RAW abuse.

 skoffs wrote:
In melee, this is obvious, but trying to claim that extends to shooting as well just reeks of blatant RAW abuse.

Oddly enough it looks like it's legal. The Entropic Strike rule makes no distinction between melee or not, it just specifies a weapon or model with this rule...

I imagine this was certainly not intended when Scarabs were put together and they really shouldn't have BS2 but unless there's some reason a swarm can't man a gun or if the scarabs cannot draw LOS from behind an ADL I think this is ok. (Haven't used the ADL/Quadgun so I don't know if LOS is drawn from the gun or the model manning it)

I now have this image of scarabs catapulting themselves at flyers and chomping through armor.

But, the scarabs probably won't have LoS to anything on the other side of the ADL. So while they can shoot the quadgun with Entropic Strike they probabl'y won't be able to actually.

Doesn't every army list in the games have trouble with 3 helldrakes? How many points are they? 200? If they have 3 that's 600 points, 1/3 of their army that has to wait till at least turn 2 to come on the board. Unreliably I may add.in my experience unless you have nothing else to shoot at ignoring flyers and just focusing the troops on the board is the best strategy.very ironic considering necrons previously suffered from phase out.



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Doesn't every army list in the games have trouble with 3 helldrakes? How many points are they? 200? If they have 3 that's 600 points, 1/3 of their army that has to wait till at least turn 2 to come on the board. Unreliably I may add.in my experience unless you have nothing else to shoot at ignoring flyers and just focusing the troops on the board is the best strategy.very ironic considering necrons previously suffered from phase out.

heldrakes are only 170
so 510
which isn't that bad for 3 of those bastards
they are the reason i bring grey knight terminators

Also many armies don't particularly care about Helldrakes. My Necrons for instance. GK terminator armies, DW armies, mech guard for instance.

It would seem helldrakes are a problem for everything not meched up or with 2+ arm our.maybe I will change my aegis to a sky shield landing pad for the 4+ invuln.it may even block LOS with the tabs folded up lol.

danielbonke wrote:
Doesn't every army list in the games have trouble with 3 helldrakes?

Monty Zahndrekh's Flying Circus is the bane of Helldrakes, no matter the number.
...
'course, they're the bane of just about everything else, too, at the moment.
:/

Okay problem solved.I will be using a sky shield landing pad for a 4+ invuln.the top if the pad still blocks LOS and can fit around 50 scarab bases.