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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/19 20:09:55
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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Greetings, citizens
I am quite new person to all of the modelling. I've recently obtained loads of pre used ultramarines which I've decided to convert into my custom renegade chapter. I have some bits of chaos warriors from WHBF and some lizards from same warhammer. I can't afford spending much on this hobby so most of the things are from bitz or second hand.
ATM they are laying down in detto, so the would be ready for stripping.
I would like to ask some opinions and ideas how easily get rid of ultramarines insignias from metal miniatures, how to disassemble miniatures glued with modelling glue. Also I need to make mecha tentacles on a techmarine, He have for now standard arm with plasma guns, tau defence drone and two more spaces on backpack. He is meant to be a warp smith whit high interests in all technologies, hence the drone.
And last thing how to make space marines look more chaos-ish besides adding loads of spikes.
My renegades are descended from black legion, dedicated to chaos undivided. Theyir main tactics are diplomacy, mass confusion and corruption.
later on I will probably show some progress and ask for some opinions.
Thanks for your assistance fellow modelers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/19 21:59:42
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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How to get rid of the insignias: My preferred method is a dremel, and a new shoulder pad, if I can't get the pad off. If you want to go with the newly-converted look, scratch the crap out of it with an exacto knife and paint it to look the same.
For CA glue, if the dettol doesn't do it (I've never used it) throw those suckers in the freezer. Seriously -- CA is moisture activated, so, depending on age, there may still be some moisture in it. If that's the case, freezing the model will cause tiny fissures in the glue, and it'll break apart MUCH easier.
For plastic glue, we're back to the dremel.
For tentacles, especially the mecha kind, green stuff and a fine-toothed comb. Roll the GS into the shape you want, then add the grooves by rolling it under the comb. YMMV.
For more Chaos-ish, you kind of have to decide which god you want to go with. Nurgle can be achieved with rot and rust. Slaanesh gets off on pain, so any way you want to go with that should work. Tzeentch.. I still don't get.
Gore is good. Spikes are good. Industrial bondage gear is good.
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2013 W/L/D Ratio:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/19 22:25:54
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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Cheers mate for hints.
The problem is I don't have green stuff but some cheaper general use putty, nor do I have sculpting tools. I know that I should not go into the hobby without preparations but yeah.
My theme is that they prefer to convert and gather warriors from different chapters and even races. They prefer to fight sending mostly cannon fodder to death and hide behind it, let it be orks or renegades. Most of them wil be painted black and white + details and trims are coloured after their status. Teal lowest one. Copper medium. Bolt gun metal medium and Golden the highest rank. Of course plague/noise/flakes and rubrick will have their respective colours included.
Is it good idea to use citadel drill to make holes in metal?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/19 22:52:18
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I've never used the citadel drill, but hand-drilling into metal sucks. I power drill at a super slow speed.
Sculpting tools are nice, but not necessary -- I used my exacto knife for a bit, to do things like squad markings and stuff that didn't require a lot of detail. I'm sure you could do something similar, but I'm not sure what to tell you except GS.
There's a Tyranid basing tutorial where the guy dropped CA into PVA glue, and it made these sweet pustule things -- that might be something to try.
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2013 W/L/D Ratio:
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Malifaux (1/3/0)
JWhex wrote:Some of you guys need to go a through bad girlfriend or two and gain some perspective on things. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/19 23:02:30
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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I haven't worked much with metal models but if you are carefull you can scrap insignias with a hobby knife and/or sand it with a file.
And the citadel drill should be enough to drill the soft metal of GW models. I have a similar non- GW one and it works fine.
I have seen some mecha tentacles made from plasticard pipes. They were cut into slices and glued onto a ticker wire. Plastic lollypop sticks(the ones with the hole in them) would work too. Or guitar wire. Here is an example directly from the dakka gallery (not mine):
To chaosify regular marines you could add random mutations. GW sells a mutation sprue. Or buy one box of possessed and distribute the bitz onto your loyalists.
Or you could buy chaos iconography, chains and skulls from a bitzshop and add them to your models. Painting blood and bloody or glowing runes onto the armor works too.
As you don't have GS and tools converting them with custom sculpted stuff is probably out of the question. But should you think about it you can use GS to chaosify loyalist marines. This is an example of slaanesh dark vengance marines made by me:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/19 23:22:35
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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I'll share my experience with making chaos look meaner. The lizard man bits are a great source of spikes an blades for trophy racks and shoulder pads. Also buy yourself a box of cocktail toothpicks. All you need to do is slice the tips off and you have hundreds of spikes to use. Cheap dollar store fake chains, the smaller the size the better. I also made use of spare heads for the racks, or you can hang them off the sides of chains. Back tot he toothpicks, shave them down thin and slice them into small pieces and glue them to the armor as studs. You can also try using simple construction paper to make armor details. Cut pointy shapes out and glue them to the armor with ca glue. Saturate the paper and let it dry so it stiffens up, or use white glue for the same effect. You can also use paper to make tabbards like the ones in the pics. You can also make spikes details using plasticard or leftover gift cards as plastic. Hope his helps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/20 09:27:30
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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Yeah ok thanks for advice. I shall try it out later.
I have couple of possesd marines alredy i've been thinking about turning servitors into more possesed, but I csnt take their heads.
Also are there any tutorials on transfering chaos warriors into csm?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 08:58:47
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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I have three small questions.
1. What is best way to decapitate metal minis.
2. Does chaso champions may use inferno pistols aka mealt pistols.
3. May I de Automatically Appended Next Post: I have three small questions.
1. What is best way to decapitate metal minis.
2. Does chaso champions may use inferno pistols aka mealt pistols.
3. May I deploy warpsmith as my main commander?
Cheers for help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 11:16:18
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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1) Jewelers saw?
2) No
3) yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 13:12:18
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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1 - Are you looking to save the metal body, or the metal head? If you just want that pesky head gone so you can jam a plastic one in the neck-socket (it's early, so I want to sound awesome when you speak my post aloud... forgive me) I'm a huge fan of my dremel with a cone/triangular bit.
However, if you want the head to put on a plastic body, I'd go with the jeweler's saw.
I don't believe there's a way to have your cake (get that head) and eat it too (keep the body usable, as well).
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2013 W/L/D Ratio:
Dark Angels (3/12/2)
Malifaux (1/3/0)
JWhex wrote:Some of you guys need to go a through bad girlfriend or two and gain some perspective on things. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 13:12:45
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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IF you want something for your plastic glue bonds I use something called Testors Elo (containsGlycol Ethers and Isobutyl Alcohol). It strips paint of GW minis a layer at a time very well, but unfortunately can dissolve the slot bases at the week points and dissolves plastic glue, so give it a try.
As for making your marines more chaos-y and your painting them black and white check out the Sons of Malice chaos chapter, 'cos with those guys you don't EVEN need to go OTT with the conversion work and their lore is AMAZINGLY indulgent!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 21:11:49
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
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Robinson92 wrote:As for making your marines more chaos-y and your painting them black and white check out the Sons of Malice chaos chapter, 'cos with those guys you don't EVEN need to go OTT with the conversion work and their lore is AMAZINGLY indulgent!
Definitely look into the Sons of Malice. They were dedicated to Malal, a now-defunct Chaos God that was dedicated to the destruction of all the other Chaos Gods. This idea would fit in with your desire to take hold of other races, chapters, legions, etc. You could include troops that look like loyalist marines, Iron Warriors, Rubric Marines, etc.
You're gonna want to use oodles of cultists if you end up building an army list for these guys, They are arguably the best meat-shields in the game. You can put them in units of up to 35 and they're great for putting infront of an expensive assaulty unit because they soak up all the overwatch and let the more valuable guys do what they do best without getting mowed down. I've even heard of some players putting them in front of tanks.
I'm planning on doing my own Loyalist to Chaos conversion on the models in the Dark Vengeance box. I'm gonna grind down the imperial insignias with my dremmel and try to free hand some chaos starts, Word Bearers insignias, etc. I like the idea of the very religious Chaos Space Marines wearing robes like Dark Angels do. I also bought a sprue of Chaos Mutations and a small bag of CSM backpacks to attach to those loyalists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 23:27:41
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Guitar string is awesome for cables and metal tenticles really easy to get hold of
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/14 11:52:54
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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Hello again.
I was moving to another house so i havent much time to work on them.
But now i have managed to strip paint and i have started some conversions soon ill be able to show some pics.
But i have a question should i give my chaos termibator assult cannon ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/15 17:13:22
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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my standar barer almost ready for under coat. It is going to be a banner of vengance. What do you think so far lads?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/15 17:49:07
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Well i can't see the picture.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/15 17:59:16
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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Damn it i have no idea how to upload it from phone then. On wednsday i should have internet connection on my pc again then i shal sort it out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/15 18:08:51
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Whiskered wrote:Damn it i have no idea how to upload it from phone then. On wednsday i should have internet connection on my pc again then i shal sort it out.
Dropbox public folder. I'm pretty sure DeviantArt, Flickr, Tumblr, and Photobucket all have mobile clients as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/15 19:04:25
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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Banner of vengeance. Opinions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/22 23:09:25
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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Hello. After loooong break caused by various things, such as school finals, and moving to new place I hadn't much time on work on my army. I have taken more photos but they came out badly and blurred. I am bad at it. That is true. I submit three guys without paint for some feedback and opinions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 19:42:45
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Morphing Obliterator
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Firstly, no, csm cannot use assault cannons,
Secondly removing imperial insignia from metal minis is a nightmare, but it can be done, just be careful you don't damage the surrounding areas,
I've included some pics of my loyalist to chaos conversions below, the plague marines were old metal minis that were donated, the others are from the dark vengeance and assault on black reach sets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 20:12:07
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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I rather like the sorcerer. The Paint job wasn't all that bad, the conversion work was simply but looked real good. I especially like the Mark of Tzeentch on the chest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 21:52:37
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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I love that sorcerer. Relay good model.
So should I have made them more chaosy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 21:57:16
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Morphing Obliterator
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I can't really say as I've not seen your pics, its up to you really though. My red corsairs are just imperials from the DV box set with the imperial markings scratched off and the odd weapon/head swap.
Oh and any advice given by bltdoomhammer really should be listened to. His stuff rocks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 22:04:02
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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Wait, does my pictures don;t show up again?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 22:08:22
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Morphing Obliterator
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Yep. Sorry
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 05:17:46
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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Damn...... I have used drop box, furaffinity and deviant art, why none works.
I mean they display pics to me l on device which i used, to upload them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 07:03:16
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Morphing Obliterator
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actually your standard bearer looks good from what i can see. the pic works on my phone, but not on my pad or computer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 23:09:12
Subject: Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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Right.... any hints how to upload these damn photos then? I used few different websites and it keep breaking down. ...
Also I have several metal scout marines, metal commander Dante and commander tycho..... I have no clue what to do with them real.... any opinions or hints?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 20:30:32
Subject: Re:Loyalists to chaos.
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Drew_Riggio
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So I have managed to achieve some progress.
Please tell me that links work this time. The metal miniature with shield is ex champion of empereor and now is chaos lord of slanesh.
if link don;t work http://imgur.com/a/UyPKY
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