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Ok because i have been using the lascannon more often than usual so i decided to make some lascannon havocs, I am working on a scratch test with a underslung lascannon as it seems to look best with the current bit. I need some advice on how to make it look better.
here are two early wip pics.

cables need to get lost, and attach to something that is not themselves.

either file off or scratch up (but leave the damaged) imperial emblem, or replace it with something chaotic looking. Beyond that, I'm not sure as to your army's aesthetic appearance, so I'm not sure how to assist its appearance.

 poda_t wrote:
cables need to get lost, and attach to something that is not themselves.

either file off or scratch up (but leave the damaged) imperial emblem, or replace it with something chaotic looking. Beyond that, I'm not sure as to your army's aesthetic appearance, so I'm not sure how to assist its appearance.

i have been working on the emblem already, if i removed the cables I'm not sure what to attached and were. I am pretty much up for any idea anyone has as well my warband is pretty much and amalgamation of anything i can get a hold of.

Cyvash wrote:

 poda_t wrote:
cables need to get lost, and attach to something that is not themselves.

either file off or scratch up (but leave the damaged) imperial emblem, or replace it with something chaotic looking. Beyond that, I'm not sure as to your army's aesthetic appearance, so I'm not sure how to assist its appearance.

i have been working on the emblem already, if i removed the cables I'm not sure what to attached and were. I am pretty much up for any idea anyone has as well my warband is pretty much and amalgamation of anything i can get a hold of.

you don't need the cables, they are unnecessary bulk that don't actually do much for the model's appearance (heck, and my model uses a metal las-cannon, so anything i could snip off the better, those things are heavy...). If i can be bothered, I will show you photos of my las-cannoneers.

I'd attach the cables to the back-pack, but then that has the problem of needing to construct a power source..

 poda_t wrote:

Cyvash wrote:

 poda_t wrote:
cables need to get lost, and attach to something that is not themselves.

either file off or scratch up (but leave the damaged) imperial emblem, or replace it with something chaotic looking. Beyond that, I'm not sure as to your army's aesthetic appearance, so I'm not sure how to assist its appearance.

i have been working on the emblem already, if i removed the cables I'm not sure what to attached and were. I am pretty much up for any idea anyone has as well my warband is pretty much and amalgamation of anything i can get a hold of.

you don't need the cables, they are unnecessary bulk that don't actually do much for the model's appearance (heck, and my model uses a metal las-cannon, so anything i could snip off the better, those things are heavy...). If i can be bothered, I will show you photos of my las-cannoneers.

I'd attach the cables to the back-pack, but then that has the problem of needing to construct a power source..

That's the only thing I;m unsure how to jury rig or bitz bash. atm i am looking at images to see what i can come up with.

I'm a fan of the underslung design too. The problem with it is the center of gravity. Or at least that is my explanation for the one underslung weapon i scratchbuild for my noise terminators.
We expect a weapon to be more or less balanced but mounting it this way moves the center of gravity away from the arm. The look will improve if you add the other arm holding the barrel.

I have two ideas that could work (Or you could do both)

What you could do is not only get rid of the cables but remove even more details from under the main body of the gun and move it to the end of the weapon. Or just remove it completely.

Another way that might work is to cut away part of the upper weapon housing so that the arm is roughly at the same level as the weapons barrel or a little bit above. Then you could build a arm-cage so that i looks more like he is reaching inside the weapon housing.
Something similar like this but with more space between barrel and hand:



And you might want to look at wires or something similar(or even get the tentacle maker or tube-tool set) that runs from the back of the weapon either to the shoulder guard or the backpack.

 btldoomhammer wrote:

Another way that might work is to cut away part of the upper weapon housing so that the arm is roughly at the same level as the weapons barrel or a little bit above. Then you could build a arm-cage so that i looks more like he is reaching inside the weapon housing.

i thought of suggesting this too, but, not an option. The other bolter-wielding hand will be needed to support the thing, and the simplest solution in this case is to put a grip-rail similar to that of the heavy bolter, where the user holds it from above, and using the bolter-gripping hand on the right, means that the corresponding bolter hand for the left arm is already in its optimal posing position. The las-cannon, i believe, is also too fat on the underside to be grasped by the bolter hand without modifying the hand...

Really i have never had that problem with my other weapons, if it proves to be difficult i then weight them, I'm thinking of using a combination of grips and arm cases if i can use the same bit. I have a few ideas in mind one was making a self contained power supply on the gun. Im not very good at creating natural looking power supplies from plastic card i can do cords no problem.

Cyvash wrote:
Really i have never had that problem with my other weapons, if it proves to be difficult i then weight them, I'm thinking of using a combination of grips and arm cases if i can use the same bit. I have a few ideas in mind one was making a self contained power supply on the gun. Im not very good at creating natural looking power supplies from plastic card i can do cords no problem.

I didn't mean that the model itself has problem with center of gravity. I think that it looks off because our experience with heavy stuff says that this weapon is way to heavy to be wielded that way. The teoretical center of gravity of the gun (if it were a real weapon) is too far away from the arm holding it. Because of that i claimed that it will look better with another hand and redesigning the weapon so that the theoretical center moves closer to the arm holding it.

So just dry fit the other arm on there (Blu tac or something similar would help) and see if it still looks off.

Ok i can do that real quick.
Here it is, minding that the large cable will probably come off until i figure out a good power suply hookup, i want to make sure the cord does not get ruined so i can make use of it.

Yes. It looks better with both arms on the gun. But because the barrel is so massive you can't do too much to the whole weapon chasis. What you could try to do it cut the cable attachment point and more it to the back of the gun and use wires or something else to attach there. (Guitar wire, tentacle maker or maybe Zinge Industries cables)

And you might want to build a simple handle for the right hand. Just pieces of plasticard or maybe the grip of a chainsword. With this it actually looks as if he has a fireing mechanism there to pull the trigger.

I've made a really crude mockup to show what i mean.

Well thanks to your help guys the las cannon idea is really takning shape, all i got to decide if i just want adjust the chaos marine backpack as is or try to do something to it.

green stuff a coil going fro mback of lasconna to centre of back pack?

cruzazul wrote:
green stuff a coil going fro mback of lasconna to centre of back pack?

I'm probably going to do that.

Cyvash wrote:

cruzazul wrote:
green stuff a coil going fro mback of lasconna to centre of back pack?

I'm probably going to do that.

if you have friends who play guitars, you have friends with resources for you. Just nab their broken guitar strings off of them.

Just a little question. What glue are you using. Because i see a lot of it and it looks a little bit unclean. If you want to do more conversions you might want to look at plastic cement with a needle applicator for more control where the glue is going.
Or in case of superglue and small glue areas apply it onto a needle or pushpin and apply the glue with that needle.

And regarding the backpack and cable. I don't know how much money you want to spent but you could buy some 3rd party backpacks and glue those onto normal backpacks after you've filed both flat. Anvil Industry has some nice and compact backpack that could be mounted on top of a chaos one.

Just some examples.
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=77_67&product_id=177
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=77_67&product_id=74
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=77_67&product_id=263

And for cableing guitar wire is probably the first thing that comes to mind. But if you want to do more conversions with cables the tentacle maker of the tube tool will get more and more interesting as you can use them tio create your own cables from GS or other putties.

 btldoomhammer wrote:
Just a little question. What glue are you using. Because i see a lot of it and it looks a little bit unclean. If you want to do more conversions you might want to look at plastic cement with a needle applicator for more control where the glue is going.
Or in case of superglue and small glue areas apply it onto a needle or pushpin and apply the glue with that needle.

And regarding the backpack and cable. I don't know how much money you want to spent but you could buy some 3rd party backpacks and glue those onto normal backpacks after you've filed both flat. Anvil Industry has some nice and compact backpack that could be mounted on top of a chaos one.

Just some examples.
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=77_67&product_id=177
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=77_67&product_id=74
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=77_67&product_id=263

And for cableing guitar wire is probably the first thing that comes to mind. But if you want to do more conversions with cables the tentacle maker of the tube tool will get more and more interesting as you can use them tio create your own cables from GS or other putties.

Its the cheap testors stuff, it'll look nicer once i get the hang of it. I know about Anvil, i even have what a 5 pound voucher for his store cause there was a little problem when i placed an order.