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I just had a sad realization the other day... with the Tau Codex being updating very soon, there's a good chance that Aun'va will no longer be useless. Considering how brutal he is, it's been very easy for about a decade to answer the question of "who's the worst character in the game?" with a simple "Space Pope". Now that this will probably not be the case, who will be the new punching bag? Who is the absolute worst Character in 40k now (not unit, mind you, Character)?

I'm not exactly sure myself, but I'd probably put my chips on Death Company Tycho because he's just sheer fail. Old One Eye for price alone maybe, but rules-wise he's actually a half-decent model... just about 100pts overcosted.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

I'm not exactly sure myself, but I'd probably put my chips on Death Company Corbulo because he's just sheer fail. Old One Eye for price alone maybe, but rules-wise he's actually a half-decent model... just about 100pts overcosted.

*Tycho.

Lord Macragge. Stats are decent, but no chapter tactics and his special is being able to have 27 Honor Guard. He strikes at I1, no artificer armor, is overcosted and does no real damage (whoop-de-doo you get 5 s8 attacks; my captain with a relic blade and his assault squad who cost as much as you get to attack first with what, 8 power sword attacks that you cant save against, and 12 chainsword attacks. THEN you can kill your 2 marines and die.)

Good question. The huge problem here is that Aun'va had that rare combination of costing a ton of points AND being worse than taking nothing at all. Aun'va is probably the only character that you wouldn't take even if he cost zero points and didn't take up a FOC slot. Other characters may be overpriced, but at least you can imagine a point cost where they'd be appealing. So there probably won't be a universally agreed-upon worst character anymore, just a wide variety of "I hate this" ones.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

I'm not exactly sure myself, but I'd probably put my chips on Death Company Corbulo because he's just sheer fail. Old One Eye for price alone maybe, but rules-wise he's actually a half-decent model... just about 100pts overcosted.

*Tycho.

Dammit, it's not my day today.

And Calgar...? Seriously? Maybe power armour Calgar, but even then he still outclasses many of the C:SM characters. And not having Chapter Tactics is no big deal, his God of War rule is amazing.

Thatguyhsagun wrote:
Lord Macragge. Stats are decent, but no chapter tactics and his special is being able to have 27 Honor Guard. He strikes at I1, no artificer armor, is overcosted and does no real damage (whoop-de-doo you get 5 s8 attacks; my captain with a relic blade and his assault squad who cost as much as you get to attack first with what, 8 power sword attacks that you cant save against, and 12 chainsword attacks. THEN you can kill your 2 marines and die.)

He allows the whole army to choose to pass or fail morale, strikes with EITHER 5 PF attacks or 4 PS attacks at Int, both of which can be aided by a banner. He can also take TDA which includes a Teleport homer. So simply load him in a Drop Pod with his 30(!) Honour Guards in tow and use him as a beacon to drop TH/SS termies. Not only that but he has an AP2 stormbolter, Orbital bombardment and can reroll to wound with said bombardment. Str 10 AP1 rerolling failed to wounds at infinite range is nothing to snort at. And 7 Str 8, AP2 attacks on the charge with the banner is certainly not to be snorted at, particularly when he rerolls wounds.

But his morale ability really makes him. I would take passing or failing all morale tests at a whim over mastercrafting a handful of guns anyday. And it also means you can pair him with a second Ultramarine character if you so desire.

 Peregrine wrote:
Good question. The huge problem here is that Aun'va had that rare combination of costing a ton of points AND being worse than taking nothing at all. Aun'va is probably the only character that you wouldn't take even if he cost zero points and didn't take up a FOC slot. Other characters may be overpriced, but at least you can imagine a point cost where they'd be appealing. So there probably won't be a universally agreed-upon worst character anymore, just a wide variety of "I hate this" ones.

Hmm well then I guess it's a matter now of figuring out who's just plain terrible overall then. Death Company Tycho certainly fits that criteria, who the hell would ever run him?

Having seen DCTycho I would run him. Not that bad imo. Sure's not as much of a force multiplier, but ignoring armour saves at Int is rare and WS7, Str (6?) on the charge with FNP and IIRC, 6 attacks on the charge I'd run. Pretty cool as part of DC list.

Yeah, PA calgar for 250 points is way overcosted, even for God Of War. How often do marines fail leadership anyway? plus they get to autoregroup and move/shoot as normal with no penalty. For EW, 2 PF and a boltgun that's AP2 id pay 180 max (100, 15 for EW 50 for PF and 15 for assault AP 2) and that's generous. Then 20 for +1 wound and attack brings God of War in for about 30 points. Not worth 250 for him imho man

His main problem is that he's slow and not an IC, so he has to walk up all by himself and can't LOS anything dangerous. He's really just a liability in comparison to regular Tycho. Maybe if you maneuvered him perfectly so he was always moving in tandem with a squad of Death Company (which will need some work because he doesn't have a jump pack, so your Death Company are either going to have to be foot-based or you're going to have to be running 2 transports to make your character work) then he'd be better, but as he is he's just not worthwhile.


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Thatguyhsagun wrote:
Yeah, PA calgar for 250 points is way overcosted, even for God Of War. How often do marines fail leadership anyway? plus they get to autoregroup and move/shoot as normal with no penalty. For EW, 2 PF and a boltgun that's AP2 id pay 180 max (100, 15 for EW 50 for PF and 15 for assault AP 2) and that's generous. Then 20 for +1 wound and attack brings God of War in for about 30 points. Not worth 250 for him imho man

The point isn't to pass your Ld checks, it's to fail them when you're locked in combat so you can rapid fire them. Tac Marines prefer to shoot afterall. Calgar removes Morale from the game entirely, which is huge.

wait calgar gets a powersword as well? never knew that. Since when has anything that's able to warp an avatar blade able to grab the hilt of power sword lmao? Bad design.


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Huh never thought of it like that... too bad he cant run dual with any Chapter Tactics character


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Imagine pedro/Calgar combo...

IMHO I'd put out the Necron guy with the weird wheelchair thing. I think he's Illuminator Szeras, but I don't have the codex in front of me. He is (I believe) 160 points and his big thing to to give +1 S, +1 A, or +1 I to one unit of warriors. You roll a D3 to see which one. Seems useless to me, but....