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I'm gonna lose my damn mind. I've cut off more plasma and bolt pistols than I relied I had. Glue won't dry.

Huh these from the sprue or the Bitz section in GW?

Sprue. All cleaned up starting to hate space wolves

Ahh well this sounds like a glue problem. What type (super or plastic) and what brand do you use?

One giant glue blob later and it works.

Heh well better than nothin right? Still what type/brand do you use? The GW stuff generally sucks but they have their good batches.Plastic glue on the other hand may work as it literally melts the plastic together

NOW IT DOESN'T FIT THE GAKKING BODY! I GIVE UP! I AM DONE!


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I'm using the army paint stuff.


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Feth the melta guns I will use plasma...

Yeah that's the problem, get another brand (I use Krazy glue but locktite works best in my experience)

Tethgar wrote:
NOW IT DOESN'T FIT THE GAKKING BODY! I GIVE UP! I AM DONE!

Should have thought of that before you tryed glueing it. And for future glueing, I used 1 tiny bottle of super glue and glued an 1000pt army of space wolves (with tank) and have glue to spare. This stuff is amazing!

now I'm out a plasma arm.


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Glur isn't the issue. Its flat piece. Not fitting non flat piece.. have you seen a melta gun?


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Could swallow my pride and use a right hand on a left arm..

I found I had to cut the shoulder pad/stock off the melta to fit it on my GH. Plastic cement won't work as I believe these melta guns are resin like mine, yes?

Also, using too much glue will have the same effect. It took me some time to understand just how much is too much. More does not equal better stronger with super glue. Just longer drying time. If you lick one piece prior to gluing it, saliva will act as an accelerator if you haven't used too much.

Brand of glue makes a difference. I used cheapi Harbor Freight gel super glue, and loc tite. Rubbish.

I now use Insta Cure + from Bob Smith Inc. Many hobby shops sell it, some with their own stickers on it like mine. It's awesome stuff. Has never failed me. Stays where you want it but can still wick which is convenient. Cheap too. There are many other varieties and thicknesses and drying times.

Here's a link to what I use exactly:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0000DD1QP

Also, super glue likes it rough. Use a file, sanding film, or make some gouges on the pieces with your hobby knife. Wash the guns too, mold release agents will affect glue and paint adhesion.

I have never used the melta pack from GW. But i know that they come with attached hands and are Resin.
So first don't use plastic glue but super glue and file the areas flat before glueing.
Secondly Meltas have the same basic shape as bolters so you probably can use bolter arms. You just have to cut the hand off the arm. But don't forget to dry-fit.
If it still doesn't hold try to pin it. (paper clip piece glued into holes on both sides.)
Also it is easier to glue on shoulder guards after the arms are on the model. But don't forget to dry-fit them with the arm to avoid problems with weapons colliding with the shoulders.

If your arms still don't fit perfectly onto the body you'll probably have to either change the alignment of the wrists. (cut and reglue) Or pin the arms to the body using a paper clip into a drilled hole in arm and body. Try to get the arms as close as possible to the body so that at least the upper shoulder area of the arm sits on the body and close the gap with greenstuff.

If you're not using plastic glue, which will somewhat fill the space between flat and concave surfaces, use gel superglue. Or you could get some jewelers files and round out the bottom of the melta and/or flatten the inside of the hand.

I just sorta said screw it and used left handed plasma pistol arms. Still had to cut the stocks off and it looks all sorts of wrong but it works.

I'm not sure I understand the problem, you're not very descriptive in your issues and you just keep posting further and further rantings without any more information.

Attaching a meltagun (since that's what you specifically mentioned) is just as straightforward as a boltgun, plasmagun, or any other gun. You cut off the pistolgrip and riflebutt/stock on the weapon and glue it onto a pistolgrip (boltgun) hand. If you're cutting off plasma pistols or boltpistols from hands/arms then just cut carefully and file the connecting surfaces flat.

What exactly is the problem? It's as straightforward as it gets, beyond slapping arms onto shoulders and pads onto arms etc... then again, some people seems to fail even at that.

First you said glue wouldn't dry, then you said glue wasn't the problem. A nonflat piece not fitting a flat piece? Well of course not. File or cut/scrape the nonflat piece flat. Sounds like trolling to me, if you're having serious issues then explain them and ask for specific help, rather than raving about how 'it's not working aaargh why me why me it's not working'.

 Badger_Bhoy wrote:
If you lick one piece prior to gluing it, saliva will act as an accelerator if you haven't used too much.

If you do this, remember to lick BEFORE you apply the glue.

Is it possible for you to post an image of what you are having a hard time with?

Also, I'd recommend Loctite Ultra gel. You can get this at Lowe's or Home Depot, and it works for resin, metal, and plastic all.

If you post a picture, we can show you how to pin pieces, but you really should not need to do this for anything other then metal to metal.

This issue I was having was that none of the pieces I had for the right arm would match up at all. The ones the Meltagun would actually fit on wouldn't fit on the torso because the metal got in the way. I eventually said to hell with it and put the melta's on the left arm. Looks a little odd but it works.

tethgar, i'm going to tell you a few things...

1.) calm the hell down, its plastic army men.
2.) you gotta help us and tell us in clearer detail what you are using (supergle or plastic cement, and what brand)
3.) you gotta tell us if you are gluing metal to plastic, metal to metal, or plastic to plastic.

i checked your profile, says you started this year. Yeah, that might be the problem. Everyone likes to tout how good GW's kits are, despite the fact that they are pure garbage (Before anyone tries to rip into me, i've assembled a few of Dragon's and Tamiya models, as well as some god-awful Russian company's kits, all of whom were much friendlier for fit), and it takes a lot of learning and getting used to for fitting the parts together. Especially space marine arms. most of the time you will be having problems with the arm, whatever it's holding, the shoulder pad and the backpack. There are a few arms that will only ever work in exactly one pose, because tilting the arm the tiniest bit means you will be having serious issues with the backpack fitting properly too..... never mind the paint forming one seamless join between the shoulder plate and the backpack exhaust vent.

poda_t you are SUPER right about those damn arm sets not fitting together right. I always put plastic glue on the shoulders and on the hand that meets up to the gun and put both arms on and then the gun, and sorta wiggle fit them while they're still wet. You will probably have a gap at the shoulder at this point. You can always fill that in with greenstuff. Just make sure that the gun hand is meeting up well with the gun, and the left hand at least looks like it's holding the gun up. It will take some effort, but try to not get glue everywhere. Small drops of glue work better than large puddles. If you're doing some resin to plastic, or emperor help you, metal to plastic, you may want to try a mix of green stuff and whatever your CA glue of choice is. That loctite gel works great for control and not making a mess, but I get stronger bonds out of zap-a-gap.You may also want to rasp the mating faces of whatever it is that you're gluing with a file slightly to give the glue something to hold on to. If it's metal, scratch a checkerboard pattern into the surface with a hobby knife.

And, if you're putting pads on after you glue the shoulders, you can get away with some gap. If the pad doesn't fit, take a file to the shoulder.

Matney X wrote:
And, if you're putting pads on after you glue the shoulders, you can get away with some gap. If the pad doesn't fit, take a file to the shoulder.

another trick, snip off the nib on the socket connecting the backpack on the space marine torso, put on a layer of plasticard on there cut to size and shape, and your shoulder pad's realestate just got easier to deal with.

I eventually figured it out. I am using super glue and resin to plastic. Also, my ability to think when annoyed is literally that of a caveman.

+5 to loctite ultra control gel.

Relax man, it's ok. Had exactly the same issue.

Grab a nail file (cheap 10 cent metal file from Rite Aid. Walgreens, CVS, etc.) and round your surfaces to mate a bit better. After that, apply just enough glue to wet the surface of one side, press and hold. Too much glue just won't set.

When putting a square peg in a round hole, make the hole square, or the peg round! Or just get a different peg...

Oh, and avoid the glue you currently have. It's a waste of your time, patience, and money.

if you really need plasma guns... send me your mailing address in a PM. I will send you 10 plasma pistols....

I need not plasma weapons. I thought I flagged this rage based post as well as my other one for deletion. I did some calculations, turns out I can sacrifice some of my chain swords and use a power weapon and some other stuff and still be under 1000 points

Tethgar wrote:
I need not plasma weapons. I thought I flagged this rage based post as well as my other one for deletion. I did some calculations, turns out I can sacrifice some of my chain swords and use a power weapon and some other stuff and still be under 1000 points

mods don't delete posts, and only lock them if there's a good reason to do so.

If you need any weapons, shoot me a PM, I'll put you out a few dollars to cover postage and the envelope, so have a long list if you do PM me

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Could swallow my pride and use a right hand on a left arm..

Ok. This is a kind of gross fix but it works.
Extremely well.
First thing is find someone who smokes. Then ask if you can have some of their cigarette ash.
Use ca glue to attach part. Then while holding pieces together blow a small amount of the ash across the joint.
The ash not only acts as an instant hardener but fills any gaps.
Oh and it causes some seriously nasty fumes.
As I said. Gross but effective.
Can also be used for bases if you can stand the fumes.


WARNING
Do not get fumes in your eyes. It hurts like hell

tomcat31 wrote:
Ok. This is a kind of gross fix but it works.
Extremely well.
First thing is find someone who smokes. Then ask if you can have some of their cigarette ash.
Use ca glue to attach part. Then while holding pieces together blow a small amount of the ash across the joint.
The ash not only acts as an instant hardener but fills any gaps.
Oh and it causes some seriously nasty fumes.
As I said. Gross but effective.
Can also be used for bases if you can stand the fumes.


WARNING
Do not get fumes in your eyes. It hurts like hell

Not bad, but an easier, less gross substitute for ash would be baking soda!