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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 02:32:22
Subject: Basic Feel No Pain question
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Does an Apothecary's Narthecium, a Painboy's Dok's Tools, or similar wargear grant Feel No Pain to an Independent Character attached to the unit?
It seems like they should because the IC "counts as part of the unit for all rules purposes". On the other hand, "unless specified in the rule itself, the unit's special rules are not conferred upon the IC".
My guess is the IC gets FNP in cases where the wargear states it grants FNP to the unit as a whole, but I would like confirmation one way or the other if possible.
Thanks in advance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 02:36:08
Subject: Basic Feel No Pain question
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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The restriction on the IC not getting the unit's special rule is that if for example you have a unit that has fnp as one of it's base special rules, that an IC that joins them would not have it.
However a model such as a sanguinary priest that grants it to units grants it to every model in the unit. Even attached ICs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 02:37:09
Subject: Basic Feel No Pain question
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Yes it's granted to the whole unit, including attached characters.
FNP doesn't normally pass on to anyone but the model with it, but in this case the wargear is granting it to the entire unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 02:40:05
Subject: Re:Basic Feel No Pain question
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thats what I thought.
Thank you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 06:13:19
Subject: Basic Feel No Pain question
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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On a side topic for this, Does a Marked Chaos Lord who joined a group Slanesh + Excess also gain the FNP rule by being in the group?
IE the lord has Mark of Slanesh, the unit has the Mark of Slanesh, the unit purchased the Icon of Excess to grant the unit FNP. ??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 08:35:25
Subject: Re:Basic Feel No Pain question
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Yup, the Icon grants FNP to ICs. Same reasoning - the wargear states it gives it to the unit, and the IC then counts as part of that unit.
It's not just FNP, by the way. Furious Charge for example - given by Khorne's Icon of Wrath but also held natively by Berzerkers, given by Sanguinary Priests but held natively by Death Company - works in exactly the same way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 09:00:31
Subject: Basic Feel No Pain question
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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A general quick ruling on this one;
If its a unit special rule, it usually wont pass on to an IC joining the unit.
If its a piece of wargear thats granting an effect, it usually does pass on to everyone.
Keep in mind there are exceptions, but thats just a quick rough guide to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 10:43:22
Subject: Re:Basic Feel No Pain question
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In the codex, it say any unit within 6 inches..! If you have one model of a different unit, within 6 inches, does his entire unit get feel no pain as well, even tho the rest of the unit is more then 6 inches away`?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 11:01:31
Subject: Re:Basic Feel No Pain question
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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This is covered by how the rules define the term "within", under Measuring Distances on page 4... but basically yes, it's the whole unit. Otherwise it would say models instead.
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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