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2013/04/04 03:45:41
Subject: Help With balancing Homebrew unit.
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
On Nimbosa, cramming as many guardsmen into troop carriers as possible.
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I have a problem... Back in 5th edition I got a space wolf grey hunter/bloodclaw kit with all the power weapons and other gubbins. I went crazy with putting them together and ended up with a 500 point vanguard squad..... Now that 6th has rolled around and these have become useless, I decided to make them much more viable Shade veteran squad. Unit limit: 1 pts cost:130 WS BS S T W I A LD SV Shade 4 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 3+ Shade sergeant. 5 4 4 4 1 4 2 9 3+ special rules: atsknf, combat squads stubborn, fleet, wargear: Power armor, Chainsword, Bolt pistol, Frag and krak grenades. Options: May include up to 5 additional Shades +20 pts per model. Dedicated transport: May take a drop pod, rhino or razorback for regular costs. wargear options Cruor pattern shotgun stats C&C is welcome! fluff will come later. EDIT: Fixed point values of melee weapons.
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2013/04/04 04:04:09
Subject: Re:Help With balancing Homebrew unit.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Why have they become useless? Wolfguard can take all those things.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2013/04/04 16:03:11
Subject: Help With balancing Homebrew unit.
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Why are all the melee weapons 5pts cheaper than they are for everyone else?
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2013/04/04 19:42:24
Subject: Re:Help With balancing Homebrew unit.
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
On Nimbosa, cramming as many guardsmen into troop carriers as possible.
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Why have they become useless? Wolfguard can take all those things.
I play vanilla marines, I made this homebrew unit to replace vanguard in my games. Vanguard are overpriced for their abilities, so I made this unit to replace them.
Why are all the melee weapons 5pts cheaper than they are for everyone else?
Thanks for catching that! I'll make sure to fix it.
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2013/04/04 20:36:17
Subject: Re:Help With balancing Homebrew unit.
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Fixture of Dakka
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 psychadelicmime wrote:
I play vanilla marines, I made this homebrew unit to replace vanguard in my games. Vanguard are overpriced for their abilities, so I made this unit to replace them.
Ah, so you want something for nothing. "I think something is overpriced" is not a good reason to invent something new.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2013/04/04 21:32:40
Subject: Help With balancing Homebrew unit.
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
On Nimbosa, cramming as many guardsmen into troop carriers as possible.
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Ok, I understand. Thanks anyways!
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2013/04/04 21:35:43
Subject: Re:Help With balancing Homebrew unit.
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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 DarknessEternal wrote: psychadelicmime wrote:
I play vanilla marines, I made this homebrew unit to replace vanguard in my games. Vanguard are overpriced for their abilities, so I made this unit to replace them.
Ah, so you want something for nothing. "I think something is overpriced" is not a good reason to invent something new.
hm, in my opinion you're both correct; i agree a new unit shouldn't be made, but i also agree if vanguards for 10-15 points cheaper people wouldn't be trying to come up with new units to replace them
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2013/04/04 21:52:14
Subject: Re:Help With balancing Homebrew unit.
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 TyraelVladinhurst wrote: DarknessEternal wrote: psychadelicmime wrote:
I play vanilla marines, I made this homebrew unit to replace vanguard in my games. Vanguard are overpriced for their abilities, so I made this unit to replace them.
Ah, so you want something for nothing. "I think something is overpriced" is not a good reason to invent something new.
hm, in my opinion you're both correct; i agree a new unit shouldn't be made, but i also agree if vanguards for 10-15 points cheaper people wouldn't be trying to come up with new units to replace them
If they were, they would practically be auto-take
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2013/04/04 22:46:08
Subject: Re:Help With balancing Homebrew unit.
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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 Evileyes wrote: TyraelVladinhurst wrote: DarknessEternal wrote: psychadelicmime wrote:
I play vanilla marines, I made this homebrew unit to replace vanguard in my games. Vanguard are overpriced for their abilities, so I made this unit to replace them.
Ah, so you want something for nothing. "I think something is overpriced" is not a good reason to invent something new.
hm, in my opinion you're both correct; i agree a new unit shouldn't be made, but i also agree if vanguards for 10-15 points cheaper people wouldn't be trying to come up with new units to replace them
If they were, they would practically be auto-take
*shrugs* i still do use them, even at their price, my whole force is vangaurds. at the very least they should fall 5-10 points, with 15 being optimistic
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