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Hi there good populous of Dakka Dakka, I am trying to put a competative list together for Ogre Kingdoms. I haven't played them as an army since the were on their first army book. I have the first draft of the list below, but I would really appreciate all and any help and constructive criticism.

Ogre Kingdoms 2,000pts

Tyrant
Great Weapon
Heavy Armour
Talisman of Preservation
250pts

Butcher
Level 2
125pts

Butcher
100pts

8 Ogres
Crusher
Bellower
Standard Bearer
Ironfists
286pts

8 Ogres
Crusher
Bellower
Standard Bearer
Ironfists
286pts

6 Ironguts
Gutlord
Bellower
Standard Bearer
288pts

30 Gnoblars
75pts

3 Leadbelchers
129pts

3 Leadbelchers
129pts

Stonehorn
Harpoon
250pts

Total
2,000pts

Any and help would be fantastic!

I haven't played OK since the new book, just been busy with other stuff but I would recommend the following:

2-3 Solo Sabretusks for chaff/redirecting/mage hunting
A BSB
Drop the Tyrant and go for a Slaughtermaster Level 4
Stonehorn can be good but it is a lot of points at 2000 try to bring 1 or 2 of the more competitive Ironblasters
Can't go wrong with 4 Mournfang with iron fists and a dragonhide, this unit will break units in 1 turn, when it comes to Monster Cav this unit is the best.

Ogres follow the trend for the combat characters being really limited and overcosted. I wouldn't say exemplify it, but off hand I can think of two builds that work. Flying carpet or potion of strength+ASF Sword. Both are really expensive for what they do, the flying carpet lord takes on war machines and the ASF lord fights characters.

HOWEVER, a slaughtermaster is far more versatile, as they can take the hit me on 6s combo and still cast magic. Plus there isn't a bad lore amongst their choices.

You also need a BSB. Most people take the armour of destiny and a great weapon for the ward save and strength. Then a firebelly with the crown of command. These ride in Ironguts. The choice for this is the magic banner. These guys take the standard of discipline so the BSB can take the ward save.

Two units of four mournfang are brilliant, ironfists are the way forwards. No champs on these fellows, you want the standard to be last one to die. One of these units takes the dragonhide banner. Not sure of the points limit they can take, but I think the Armour Piercing banner could be a good choice.

As for rare, Two ironblasters is by far the most competitive choice.

 thedarkavenger wrote:

HOWEVER, a slaughtermaster is far more versatile, as they can take the hit me on 6s combo and still cast magic. Plus there isn't a bad lore amongst their choices.

I'm still new to OK, what is the 6s combo on Slaughtermasters?

Fencers Blades, Glittering Scales, Hellheart

Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:
Fencers Blades, Glittering Scales, Hellheart

Don't those 3 things add up to 10 points too much worth of magic items?

Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:
Fencers Blades, Glittering Scales, Hellheart

Yes you want fencers blade glittering scales and crown of command.

 cgage00 wrote:

Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:
Fencers Blades, Glittering Scales, Hellheart

Yes you want fencers blade glittering scales and crown of command.

Ah sorry

Ah. Ok. Makes more sense.

Cheers guys, I am settling back down to look things over

I had a ton of luck with lots of minimum sized gnoblar units.
Those little buggers just die so fast, breaking them down to multiple units of 10 seemed to work better than ever taking more. A unit of ~50 gets beat down faster than 5 units of 10.

Gnoblars never, ever win combat. If they do, go by a lottery ticket, you're having a really lucky day.

As for leadbelchers, combined into a block of 6. 6 will shoot just as well, but have a chance at winning combat; something that just 3 ogres will struggle with.
I personally would not run them unless you want all in with shooting (2 units of 6 or 8), but that's just me.


Anyhow,
Iron Belcher = Amazing.
Slaughter Master is better than Amazing.

-Matt