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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/24/world/middleeast/israel-says-syria-has-used-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0

Oh, my.

It's time to get your masks on.

HOLY FETH

Oh dear, that's not going to end well at all.

Not good. I guess this means, we're about to have a serious presence over there.

Well, the president said it would be a game changer if they started chem attacks. Poison gas is a bad way to go.

Yeah, this is going to end badly.

OT: Why are you in Nigeria Sasori?

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yeah, this is going to end badly.

OT: Why are you in Nigeria Sasori?

I'm guessing the same reason I'm in the US. It's where the VPN is.

 Sasori wrote:
Not good. I guess this means, we're about to have a serious presence over there.

You go. I'm not sending my kid to die for anyone. Nor am I supporting anyone sending someone else's kid.

I wouldn't take action based on the word of the Israelis, and it looks like the administration won't either.

I wouldn't take action regardrless. Its not our fight. Nothing we do in the Middlle East helps us. Best to stay out and keep an ocean between them and us.

Yawn. hasn't it already been established that gas has been used?

This is Just Israel trying to get themselves noticed again. 'hey, we are still here!'

The Israelis have the best intelligence arm in the world, it's the only reason they still exist beyond the sheer will power of the IDF, not to mention the French and British are confirming the reports.

Again, and?

Well Obama, and the US, would lose serious face internationally if we choose not to come down on Syria as he would be breaking his promise.

Me personally I don't really give two gaks. France seems to like invading people and air strikes, let them handle it. Or bring the Ruskies into NATO "Putin, you got this one mate"

I could see Putin wanting to do that.

Everyone wins.

Syria gets liberated
Russia joins NATO
Russia and Putin get to blow off steam using Assad's army and remaining government like a speed bag in the gym. (and said army would probably last about as long as a hamster that was inside said speed bag)

I don't like Isreal, but this is one of the few things I'd fight along side them against. Poison gas is the single most painful, horrible thing you will ever die from. I've been shot, stabbed, burned, blown up, run over, fallen off a cliff, and drown. I'd happily do all of them again if I never get a whiff of chlorine gas ever again.

Fraz, I occasionally respect you, but on this thing we will disagree.

These fethers are doing this to their own people.

Send the troops.

 BaronIveagh wrote:
I don't like Isreal, but this is one of the few things I'd fight along side them against. Poison gas is the single most painful thing you will ever die from. I've been shot, stabbed, burned, blown up, run over, fallen off a cliff, and drown. I'd happily do all of them again if I never get a whiff of chlorine gas ever again.

Fraz, I occasionally respect you, but on this thing we will disagree. Send the troops.

You go.

 Frazzled wrote:

You go.

Gladly.

Clearly Frazz is missing his opportunity to test the wiener dog legions, as Germany tested their tactics and equipment in the Spanish Civil War, so too can the rapid legions be tested. Wearing appropriate gas masks of course.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

You go.

Gladly.

When do you leave? Have you gotten tickets to Turkey yet?

 Grey Templar wrote:
Clearly Frazz is missing his opportunity to test the wiener dog legions, as Germany tested their tactics and equipment in the Spanish Civil War, so too can the rapid legions be tested. Wearing appropriate gas masks of course.

 Frazzled wrote:


When do you leave? Have you gotten tickets to Turkey yet?

No idea. The people that make that decision haven't yet.

Send all the drones. Who needs soldiers for this?

I'm confused here. Do we back the Syrian Army and its dictator, who is a Russian and Iranian ally, or do we continue to back the Free Syrian Army with its ties to Al-Queda?

Or better yet, do we leave them to it because no matter what we do we'll get blamed anyway?

Guess which one I'm hoping for

Well there's always option 3: Neither one, and let the Russians take over.

The chemical weapon "red line" was, as I think everyone anticipated, a bluff. The Syrians, as I think everyone anticipated, called it. The US, as I think everyone anticipated, ain't going in.

Or we could leave it alone, and be blamed by all the people that survive for having been able to stop it and done nothing.

It's lose, lose, lose. I'd prefer to lose doing the thing that saves the most people from horrific deaths.

 BaronIveagh wrote:
Or we could leave it alone, and be blamed by all the people that survive for having been able to stop it and done nothing.

It's lose, lose, lose. I'd prefer to lose doing the thing that saves the most people from horrific deaths.

A lot of countries could stop it, if they really wanted to. I don't see the Germans or the French or the British or the Canadians suiting up. Or the Turks, for that matter. It's happening right next door to them. They could do it, if they chose.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I'm confused here. Do we back the Syrian Army and its dictator, who is a Russian and Iranian ally, or do we continue to back the Free Syrian Army with its ties to Al-Queda?

Or better yet, do we leave them to it because no matter what we do we'll get blamed anyway?

Guess which one I'm hoping for

Someone who understands. If we get involved, no matter who we back, we lose.