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Good evening, fellow Dakkadakka members!

This next saturday I'm going to a 1750 points tournament so I could really use the help of the more battle-hardened overlords :

HQ (390pts)
Destroyer Lord
(Sempiternal Weave), Warscythe

WARLORD - Necron Overlord
(Mindshackle Scarabs), (Resurrection Orb), (Sempiternal Weave), Warscythe

Royal Court
Harbinger of Destruction
Eldritch Lance, Solar Pulse

Harbinger of the Storm
(Lightning Field), Voltaic Staff (Haywire)

Troops (784pts)
10x Necron Immortal
Tesla Carbine
Night Scythe

14x Necron Warrior
Night Scythe

9x Necron Warrior
Ghost Ark

Fast Attack (305pts)
Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith with Whip Coils
2x Vanilla

5x Tomb Blade
Twin-linked Tesla Carbine

Heavy Support (270pts)
Annihilation Barge
Tesla Cannon , Twin-Linked Tesla Destructor

Annihilation Barge
Tesla Cannon, Twin-Linked Tesla Destructor

Annihilation Barge
Tesla Cannon, Twin-Linked Tesla Destructor

A grand total of 1749 points

Strategy:

I don't have many games, but with the ones I had, I noticed how I'm completely screwed if I try to play the long ranged Pew-pew. Not only that, I'm a bit of an agressive player because I really want to bring the fight to the enemy.
With this list I'm thinking of placing objectives near the middle of the board. I want my whole army to be in shooting range. I don't want a rearguard unit protecting an objective whom will die horribly, with no chance of survival, if the other player deep-strikes anything with AP4.

The 9 Warriors have the Lancetek with them inside the GA. Solar Pulse for turn 1.
The AB will flank the GA, protecting and moving together, firing at whatever needs to be fried. They will be deployed near the center.
14x warriors + Stormtek inside a NS to either destroy an infantry unit or a nasty armor and (hopefully) contest and conquer an objective
10x Immortals + OL inside NS to blast away any heavy resistance, and hopefully have the Overlord charge next turn
I'm thinking DLord + Wraiths covering one flank, tomb blades on the other. He'll have to choose between which of them he'd rather try to wipe out if he's trying to protect his flanks.

Ofc all can change because of terrain or mission type but I think that's the "Standard" plan. C&C are VERY welcome. Any ideas about possible changes are also very welcome: One NS is magnetized, one AB is magnetized, 1 extra Tomb Blade, 1 TS and 10 Deathmarks. That's what I have for other strategies.

Thank you for your time

first suggestion, i am also aggressive and find that gauss immortals in scythes will serve you far better than tesla, just make sure to drop them in rapid fire or dont drop them at all

i dont use tomb blades myself, but if i did then i would be taking the increased cover save (cuz its freakin amazing) and would take particle shredders( or whatever that blast is)
i feel like the telsa carbines arent going to do a whole lot for you. 5 shots is not many to work with and the blasts would do alot more damage.

everything else in this list looks really solid, although im curious as to where your crypteks will be. is the HOD in the ghost ark and the HOS in the scythe?

i like the aspects of the list but feel like it just needs some minor tweaking


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ah right, i missed that bit at the end. crypteks are clarified

Some suggestions seeing units you currently have...

Get MSS on that DLord. Cheap and awesome upgrade and he will either be in melee or dead.

DLord w MSS/Weave/Warscythe
OL w MSS/Weave/ResOrb/Warscythe
1x Stormtek
1x Destructek w/Solar Pulse
5x Deathmarks
10x Tesla Immortals w/ Tesla Carbines
5x Warriors in NS
5x Warriors in Ark
5x Warriors
5x Wraiths
5x Tomb Blades w/Nebuloscope
3x A. Barge w/Tesla

Setup would go..
DLord w/5x Wraiths
Overlord w/10x Tesla Immortals in NS
Stormtek in NS with 5x Warriors
Destructek in Ark with 5x Warriors
5x Warriors footsloggin' or in reserve
5x Deathmarks either in reserve or footsloggin'
5x Tomb Blades scootin' and Gaussin' enemy troops and vehicles
3x Barges just... bargin'

Fairly simple and I think a great setup for what you have.

Zheak wrote:first suggestion, i am also aggressive and find that gauss immortals in scythes will serve you far better than tesla, just make sure to drop them in rapid fire or dont drop them at all

i dont use tomb blades myself, but if i did then i would be taking the increased cover save (cuz its freakin amazing) and would take particle shredders( or whatever that blast is)
i feel like the telsa carbines arent going to do a whole lot for you. 5 shots is not many to work with and the blasts would do alot more damage.

everything else in this list looks really solid, although im curious as to where your crypteks will be. is the HOD in the ghost ark and the HOS in the scythe?

i like the aspects of the list but feel like it just needs some minor tweaking


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ah right, i missed that bit at the end. crypteks are clarified

Unfortunately my Immortals are glued with the Tesla, so I can't do much about Gauss Immortals Do you feel rapid fire is better than Tesla? Those extra hits have been awesome.

I have tried the Particle Caster before, but it's always a matter of luck with the scatter and, it's 10 extra points for each bike. The stealth upgrade isn't a bad idea, and isn't that expensive. 5 points each. I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the help

Budikah wrote:Some suggestions seeing units you currently have...

Get MSS on that DLord. Cheap and awesome upgrade and he will either be in melee or dead.

DLord w MSS/Weave/Warscythe
OL w MSS/Weave/ResOrb/Warscythe
1x Stormtek
1x Destructek w/Solar Pulse
5x Deathmarks
10x Tesla Immortals w/ Tesla Carbines
5x Warriors in NS
5x Warriors in Ark
5x Warriors
5x Wraiths
5x Tomb Blades w/Nebuloscope
3x A. Barge w/Tesla

Setup would go..
DLord w/5x Wraiths
Overlord w/10x Tesla Immortals in NS
Stormtek in NS with 5x Warriors
Destructek in Ark with 5x Warriors
5x Warriors footsloggin' or in reserve
5x Deathmarks either in reserve or footsloggin'
5x Tomb Blades scootin' and Gaussin' enemy troops and vehicles
3x Barges just... bargin'

Fairly simple and I think a great setup for what you have.

I agree with the MSS. Problem is I didn't know what to cut for the 20 points upgrade but I really should equip DLord with MSS.

The Deathmarks, ok, they can deep-strike in.
Maybe 14 warriors in a NS is a bit overkill, but I felt I needed a big group to contest and hold objectives and survive, so what's the strategy behind the several 5x warrior groups? And the footsloggers, what would their job be? Thanks for the help

TheDraconicLord wrote:
Unfortunately my Immortals are glued with the Tesla, so I can't do much about Gauss Immortals Do you feel rapid fire is better than Tesla? Those extra hits have been awesome.

Use what you prefer. I generally use Tesla too as you can generate more hits from any range. Gives a bit more flexibility.

TheDraconicLord wrote:I agree with the MSS. Problem is I didn't know what to cut for the 20 points upgrade but I really should equip DLord with MSS.

The Deathmarks, ok, they can deep-strike in.
Maybe 14 warriors in a NS is a bit overkill, but I felt I needed a big group to contest and hold objectives and survive, so what's the strategy behind the several 5x warrior groups? And the footsloggers, what would their job be? Thanks for the help

Deathmarks without a despairtek are <*ahem*> less than efficient. In fact imho you shouldn't bother if you are planning to do that.

the 5x warrior groups (normally in Nightscythes) are mainly there to grab objectives (assuming the rest of the army has cleared it out). Idea is that they are protected in the nightscythe until the end. Basically, it's a way of getting another flyer on the table.

5 man units are best used as a last minute drop or walk in from reserve to claim a back objective. If they come in to early or start on the board, they will likely give your enemy firstblood.

Tesla is better than gauss when you are shooting out of rapid fire range. 12" or under gauss will tend to do better.

I'm not the best with tomb blades but your stealth upgrade is really going to vary based on game. you have solar to force night fight if you don't start the game with that. Since you gain steath at 12+ already, that will not stack with your upgrade so it becomes a waste in that cases.(shrouded will stack, giving you a sexy 2+ at over 24") However the more turns you do not have night fight it will be more useful. Between your Jink and stealth you have a perma 4+ cover at combat speed. If you are going to take the partle beams I would take the BS upgrade just to help reduce the scatter.

ok, after some tweaking, here's what I got:

HQ (400pts)
Destroyer Lord
Mindshackle Scarabs, Sempiternal Weave, Warscythe

WARLORD - Necron Overlord
(Mindshackle Scarabs), (Resurrection Orb), (Sempiternal Weave), Warscythe

Royal Court
Harbinger of Destruction
Eldritch Lance, Solar Pulse

Harbinger of the Storm
Voltaic Staff (Haywire)

Troops (745pts)
10x Necron Immortal
Tesla Carbine
Night Scythe

11x Necron Warrior
Night Scythe

9x Necron Warrior
Ghost Ark

Fast Attack (305pts)
Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith with Whip Coils
2x Vanilla

5x Tomb Blade
5x Nebuloscope, 5x Twin-linked Tesla Carbine (Tesla Weapon)

Heavy Support (270pts)
Annihilation Barge
Tesla Cannon , Twin-Linked Tesla Destructor

Annihilation Barge
Tesla Cannon, Twin-Linked Tesla Destructor

Annihilation Barge
Tesla Cannon, Twin-Linked Tesla Destructor

Dropped a few of the necron warriors and the Lightning Field to get enough points for the DLord's MSS and the Stealth upgrade for the bikes. Thanks everyone

Looks fairly decent.

My objective of having those 5 man Warrior squads was for scoring.

Lord + Immortals would be your backfield unit or your linebreaking denial unit along with those Wraiths/Tomb Bikes. I personally tend to drop the Whip Coils on my Wraiths - not that they aren't a good value - but in my local meta my Wraiths are usually a total fire magnet and end up dead or down to 1-3 models... BEFORE Overwatch happens.

Having two Night Scythes purely for scoring and the last Warrior squad on foot was to walk in from reserves and hopefully capture any objectives by your board edge.

Well, it didn't go so bad Won my first 2 games against SW and CSM but lost the final game against a Necron Flying Circus of Doom :( 3 Doom Scythes and 5 Night Scythes, gaaak, not only was extremely hard to fight it, the dice Gods were mad at me.

Ah well, that's 40k. Thanks everyone for the help