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Good evening, fellow users! As is already stated above, I am quite new to the hobbie. I bought my first miniatures (Tau, i fell in love with since the first time I saw them) about a year ago, but had not much time to focus to it. Now, however, it's quite different and I am lookingfor a decent/funny to play list in order to know what to buy next.

As an introduction i will say that I love crisis suits and their versatility, so i would like to know if they can compete with the riptide. That said, I will go on with the army :


-------------------HQ-------------------
Crisis Suit Commander: (Total: 177)
2xMP,
Drone Controller,
Target Lock,
2MLD
Iridium armor

Commander Shadowsun: (Total:175)
2xSpecial Shield Drones

-----------------Elite------------------
XV8-Crisis-Team(3) (Total: 191)
3xDual Fusionblaster
Vre upgadre
2xTarget Lock
1xNeuro Chip
These suits are going for the Heavy Armour of the enemy team, Via Deepstriking or infiltrating(with Commander Shadowsun, wich will boost their survability).

XV8-Crisis-Team(3) (Total:171)
3xDual Plasma
3xWarning System
To hunt those elite-warriors of the enemy team and destroy them when they come out of that Drop-Pod .They will support the Fire Warrior Teams
----------------Troops----------------
6xFw(1): Total(54)
6xFw(2): Total(54)
6xFw(3): Total(54)
6xFw(4): Total(54)
6xFw(5): Total(54)
6xFw(6): Total(54)


---------------Fast Attack------------
8xM.L.D: (Total:120)
These drones are attached to the commander for some good BS5 markerlight support.


-------------Heavy Support----------
Skyray: D.Pod (Total: 130)
Skyray: D.Pod (Total: 130)
To my eyes the best Anti-Air unit in the game, ML support against flyers and 6 Seeker that can take out a flier or some MC.

Army Total: 1418. I need some points. Suggestions?

Any Suggestions? I was thinking on some Kroot or something like thatÜÜ

give the commander the armor to make them +1T and 2+ save with cheap weapons

tl fusion blaster and 1 flamer? and shield gen for your battlesuits

fire warrior spam is funny

everything else is fine but the fusions are for better anti tank

Oh yeah, by Anti-Heavy-Armour I actually meant against av 13-14 Sorry for the missunderstanding! The iridium Armor is a great idea, will include it! And with the remaining points should i buy shield gen? Aren't they way too expensive?
Do you think that i have got enough firepower for a 1500pt match?

shield drones keep you alive, because you now need to buy everyone in the squad shield drones in order to keep them alive, but it is up to you, i would have it on everyone ( also what is better, x2 fusion blaster or twinlinked fusion blaster )

If I'm correct i believe your Pure tide chip fusion squad is illegal as it doesn't have a captain upgrade.

You should kill a few drones here or there and make space for the iridium armor. it is way too good too pass up.

Crisis-Teams are all equiped with dual weapon, that means ncoot twinlinked (It is already included in the cost). As far as shield drones go, the Fusion-Team has the drones from Commander Shadowsun: Should that provide enough surviability throughout the game? I may consider some defensive options for the plasma team, it feels as if they were too squishy :S

And yeah, i had forgot the 'vre upgrade, it was indeed ilegal ! Thank you very much for pointing it out!

Let me start with your list is very good, you have the tools to deal with alot of things and the only thing you overdid.....IS!!

I dont think you need 10 marker lights in one unit....the max you need on any one unit is 3-4..maybe...

Why not sniper team that can get 3 bs 5 marker lights along with the sniper rifles? (about 120 pts or so? for 3markers 5 sniper drones)

If you like the drone commander (which i personally love) buy 3-4 pirhanas and have him join the disembarked pirahana gun drones. (150-200 pts fusion)

Now you have 2 marker drones and 6-8 gun drones at bs5!!! wooooo!!!

you also now have some cheap burst cannons or fusion guns if you buy em on the pirhanas(i got for fusion)

think about how cheap that makes each pirahana when you disembark the gun drones!!!



This also spreads out your marker lights for "roling lights"

commander with 2 bs 5 markers
snipers with 3 bs 5 markers
sky rays with 4 total bs 4 markers


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ManiacJAKE wrote:
Crisis-Teams are all equiped with dual weapon, that means ncoot twinlinked (It is already included in the cost). As far as shield drones go, the Fusion-Team has the drones from Commander Shadowsun: Should that provide enough surviability throughout the game? I may consider some defensive options for the plasma team, it feels as if they were too squishy :S

And yeah, i had forgot the 'vre upgrade, it was indeed ilegal ! Thank you very much for pointing it out!

shadow suns unit is fine it has the cover saves from shadow at 4+ in ope 2+ in cover. It kind of makes her sheild drones not neccessary....you may want to take gun drones instead as they are almost half as expensive, can still be good bullet catchers with the 4+/2+ cover save, and they provide more dakka!!

TACTICAL NOTE - When using shadowsun make sure you ask your opponent which weapons he has that ignore cover and are ap3....SO YOU CAN KILL THEM FIRST!!!

The plasma squad Id suggest the same, some gun drones as they can be put in front to soak up shots and they also shoot back! pew pew!! I have never found shield drones worth the cost but others swear by it, so sheild drones are not a bad choice, i just like more dakka as dead dudes dont shoot at me so i dont need shields!

ManiacJAKE wrote:
Crisis-Teams are all equiped with dual weapon, that means ncoot twinlinked (It is already included in the cost). As far as shield drones go, the Fusion-Team has the drones from Commander Shadowsun: Should that provide enough surviability throughout the game? I may consider some defensive options for the plasma team, it feels as if they were too squishy :S

Well now i see 191 instead of the previous 181.

Shadowsun Suits should be fine, just keep the 3++ drone in the front of shadowsun and make use of terrain to get that 2+ cover at all time. otherwise they are squishy

Theorius wrote:


I dont think you need 10 marker lights in one unit....the max you need on any one unit is 3-4..maybe...

Why not sniper team that can get 3 bs 5 marker lights along with the sniper rifles? (about 120 pts or so? for 3markers 5 sniper drones

This also spreads out your marker lights for "roling lights"

commander with 2 bs 5 markers
snipers with 3 bs 5 markers
sky rays with 4 total bs 4 markers

Thanks for the advice! I Think you are right, 10 Marker Light Drones are maybe some kind of overkill for one unit, I may consider dropping the number of drones by 2 or 3. I also like the idea from the sniper teams, but i wanted to field a rather-mobile-dynamic army, can the sniper drones fit in such an army?


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Sniper drones are JSJ, the spotter witht he marker lights well they are Heavy 1 so if your going with a mobile theme they may not work for you, but when they set up in a spot to marker people the drones jump out take shots and then jump back, so its not totally stagnant, and when they need to move the markers can still snap fire.

Funny story though....my first game with sniper teams i had only 1 spotter and an enemy sniper/precision shot killed her so the 5 snipers had no spotter....so...I had my drone controller commander join the 5 sniper drones!!!!!

HOLY CRAP WAS THAT FUN!!!

JSJ with sniper drones attached to a commander, pure genius!


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ManiacJAKE wrote:

Theorius wrote:


I dont think you need 10 marker lights in one unit....the max you need on any one unit is 3-4..maybe...

Why not sniper team that can get 3 bs 5 marker lights along with the sniper rifles? (about 120 pts or so? for 3markers 5 sniper drones

This also spreads out your marker lights for "roling lights"

commander with 2 bs 5 markers
snipers with 3 bs 5 markers
sky rays with 4 total bs 4 markers

Thanks for the advice! I Think you are right, 10 Marker Light Drones are maybe some kind of overkill for one unit, I may consider dropping the number of drones by 2 or 3. I also like the idea from the sniper teams, but i wanted to field a rather-mobile-dynamic army, can the sniper drones fit in such an army?


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you could also spread out marker drones in the crisis suit teams if you want, they would be bs 2 unless you drone controller for bs 3, but they are twin linked so bs2 is still 50% chance, and if you play it right you do rolling lights like a mentions before so. Example - commander with his bs 5 drones shoots first since he needs no marker help to hit. Then a crisis suit team shoots it using markers but then the marker drones in the unit reapply markers for the next unit that shoots it (if its not dead yet!)