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2023/09/14 11:11:19
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Huge Bone Giant
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Good to know. But not exactly catering to people like me who like to view things on a nice, large screen. Kids these days with their damn mobile devices...
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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2023/09/14 11:33:17
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Dakka Veteran
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You could mirror it to your tv if you want or use a tablet.
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2023/09/14 11:49:49
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Huge Bone Giant
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I could also just not bother. It's baffling that GW supports some platforms but not others with just this one thing. I can use their store on PC. I can watch their videos on PC. I can read Warhammer Vault content on PC. I can read their news page on PC. I can get my posts on their social media platforms deleted on PC. There's even a list builder on Warhammer Community that I can use on PC. But access to the free part of their rules is restricted to other devices, particularly when it didn't used to be. I don't much feel like working around GW's stupidity.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2023/09/14 11:54:03
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Dakka Veteran
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I also find this weird. Speaking of which: Has anyone also figured out that the GW paint app does not include tutorials for Contrast paints anymore? They only show the "classic way" of painting in the app and months ago the "contrast way" was still available.
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2023/09/14 13:09:43
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Astmeister wrote:I also find this weird. Speaking of which: Has anyone also figured out that the GW paint app does not include tutorials for Contrast paints anymore? They only show the "classic way" of painting in the app and months ago the "contrast way" was still available.
They actually do show some contrast methods, they are just not separated anymore. I was looking at oranges the other day and one if them used contrast....Embers...it uses Magmadroth Flame
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2023/09/14 14:19:01
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Dakka Veteran
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Oh you are right. That is so much worse than before, where you could choose almost for each color between Contrast and Classical.
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2023/09/14 14:19:29
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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[DCM]
Savage Minotaur
Baltimore, Maryland
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Screaming Bell now moves on its own(much asked for by Skaven players for sometime) and a ton of points changes to SBGL. OBR hit with some rules changes as well. Will be interesting to see how the latter 2 are affected, as they have been top performers.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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2023/09/14 15:09:01
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I have to say that the Screaming Bell moving on its own feels very weird. It's like the one thing they were consistent about for its many iterations: You need little guys to push.
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2023/09/14 15:14:09
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So the ardboyz were inspired by the castelite formations to adopt shield and spear formations? I like that the lore and units expand alongside the setting, but the Lumineth and other armies have used spears and shields since forever, I don’t know why the cities of sigmar formation would be so inspiring to orruks
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2023/09/14 15:35:13
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Feels like the biggest nerf was actually to Hedonites, despite SBGL and OBR being way more problematic.
All of my HoS lists went up 60-90pts, but most awkwardly the points costs mean every permutation of list leaves me 10pts over, or as much as 70pts under, 2000pts. Hitting every single good unit with even a modest increase has definitely created some weirdness, where I am now forced to take Endless Spells I don't want, or ally in one of the not useful Warcry warbands.
Big oof, for me. Hedonites was doing a hair too good, but it is also a VERY high skill army that doesn't just hand a bad player a netlist and see them succeed. As a result I think they just got over-corrected super hard.
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2023/09/14 16:24:17
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:Feels like the biggest nerf was actually to Hedonites, despite SBGL and OBR being way more problematic.
All of my HoS lists went up 60-90pts, but most awkwardly the points costs mean every permutation of list leaves me 10pts over, or as much as 70pts under, 2000pts. Hitting every single good unit with even a modest increase has definitely created some weirdness, where I am now forced to take Endless Spells I don't want, or ally in one of the not useful Warcry warbands.
Big oof, for me. Hedonites was doing a hair too good, but it is also a VERY high skill army that doesn't just hand a bad player a netlist and see them succeed. As a result I think they just got over-corrected super hard.
Generally exactly 2000 isn't even all that good thing to be.
Hell KO's love going for 1930 pts or so.
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2023/09/14 17:04:46
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Astmeister wrote:The Warscrolls are still in the app for all factions!
Imho GW can not rip the peoples money out of their pockets so easily via AoS, because unlike 40k the player base is much smaller.
So they do not want to drive off too many people. For 40k GW can basically get through with anything they want.
Not only is the AoS community smaller, but theres also a segment of it which are effectively abuse survivors (i.e. those who stuck with AoS after WHFB End Times) and will not react well to some of the more unfriendly business practices that GW has engaged in with regards to 40k. Its just as much about fostering goodwill as it is not driving customers away.
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2023/09/14 17:52:36
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Even in 40K I think GW has slowly started to realise that whilst expansion books are a nice concept; their customer base was burning out on them. Likely reinforced by the pandemic meaning that last edition was a cluster of messy stuff where most people were buying books they couldn't even game with for very long.
On the one hand lots of regular books makes money for GW; on the other hand lots of regular books that are mandated purchasing that makes the game more expensive and more complicated starts to turn people away
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2023/09/14 18:21:42
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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A broken clock is right twice a day I guess.
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2023/09/14 18:33:27
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Depends how much you break it
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2023/09/15 15:01:00
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Dominating Dominatrix
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2023/09/15 22:06:48
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ragerz/Wrekkaz come with 3 of each weapon type so all 3 Ragerz could have gore-hacka blades or Brute crushas. Not too many options in the kits Ardboyz appear to have 14 heads all masked.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/orruk-warclans-brute-ragerz-2023
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2023/09/16 02:02:02
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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It is a minute past midday and Big Pig is already sold out... Jesus...
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2023/09/16 03:52:48
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Speed Drybrushing
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It was cheaper than I expected, so ordered a couple.
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2023/09/16 09:25:37
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Emboldened Warlock
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Here is my unboxing & review for the Maw-grunta, Ardboys, and Weirdbrute Wrekkaz / Brute Ragerz. Got high-res sprue pics and a rundown of all assembly options as usual: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/09/review-ironjawz-tuskboss-on-maw-grunta-ardboyz-weirdbrute-wrekkaz-brute-ragerz/
Sadly, the options for the Maw-grunta are a bit limited - there are the three builds but that's pretty much it, no additional bitz or stuff (except for an optional nose ring for the Grunta).
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2023/09/16 09:41:50
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Would other Ironjaw heads perhaps be compatible with the Maw-Grunter Orcs?
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2023/09/16 09:52:46
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Foxy Wildborne
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These are cool but man I hate the pricing on "large infantry", 3 Ragerz is just a few euros less than 10 Ard Boyz.
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2023/09/16 10:21:47
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Yeah it’s a shame there’s only one head for the Maw-Grunta, especially when you can have a whole army of them.
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2023/09/16 10:23:20
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Huge Bone Giant
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H.B.M.C. wrote:It is a minute past midday and Big Pig is already sold out... Jesus...
Still available on the German webstore 75 minutes after it went up. Maybe it's not bacon season around here. Maybe GW figured that if they aren't selling much at Australian prices, they can cut stock allocation for Australia.
lord_blackfang wrote:These are cool but man I hate the pricing on "large infantry", 3 Ragerz is just a few euros less than 10 Ard Boyz.
That was confusing to read until I remembered it's a three man box rather than five men. Yeah. They are the standard price for a three man box, but it sure is a bit much.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2023/09/16 11:00:17
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Speed Drybrushing
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ImAGeek wrote:
Yeah it’s a shame there’s only one head for the Maw-Grunta, especially when you can have a whole army of them.
I'm sure we'll get the customary "just 3d print a different one" comments in the Ironjawz groups
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2023/09/16 11:30:37
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Anyone know how big the Maw-Grunta is, compared to the Ork Kill Rig/Hunta Rig?
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
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2023/09/16 11:39:22
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Geifer wrote:Still available on the German webstore 75 minutes after it went up.
Yeah I wasn't talking about the GW webstore as, really, who pays full retail price for GW products?
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2023/09/16 11:46:58
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Any chance you could line up some Brutes and new Ardboyz for a size comparison?
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2023/09/16 11:52:43
Subject: AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Emboldened Warlock
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Would other Ironjaw heads perhaps be compatible with the Maw-Grunter Orcs?
Yeah I think so, the new Ardboys heads should fit the crew and Brute heads fit the Gouger rider (the Tuskboss head is framed by his bone helmet), some minor gap filling might be needed though.
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2023/09/16 12:30:23
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Dawnbringers, Ironjawz pre-order Sept 16. IJ Supplement pg 174)
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Already have 30 Black Orcs but the new kits are quite awesome.
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