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The Last Chancer Who Survived




United Kingdom

I've just been thinking, would it make sense to use C:SM for an Iron Warriors army?

If you think about it, it kinda makes sense. The Iron Warriors only care about siege, and aren't all that fanatical about any particular gods. You can use the chaos models to represent normal marines, and there would be access to rifleman dreadnoughts who don't go crazy, better choices of Land Raider, Razorbacks etc.

What do you think?
   
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest





Stevenage, UK

This exact question was asked *fairly* recently but didn't get much reply so it's dropped off the front page. I'll copy my answer from it:

 Super Ready wrote:
It could work, sure... you'd have to be careful not to take some of the Marines' newer toys, or model them to suit. I'm talking things like the Thunderfire, Stormtalon, Stormraven... all things Iron Warriors wouldn't have access to unless they'd looted them.

Honestly, you've got plenty of options for making a fluffy Iron Warriors list out of the Chaos Codex. Just mech everything up! Warpsmith is an obvious choice, as are Maulerfiends, Forgefiends, Heldrakes, Helbrutes, Predators, Land Raiders, and Havocs. Then your normal Marine troops can take Rhinos to keep up too. That's a heck of a starting roster.

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Lord of the Fleet






C:CSM, C:SM, C:SW even C:BT are all pretty suitable for an Iron Warriors list.

Also, if IA rules are cool with your gaming group then check out the Siege Assault Vanguard army list in IA:10 (Badab part 2) - it's exactly what you're looking for!
   
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C:CSM is the best codex for Iron Warriors. Why would you use something else?

Iron Warriors don't have ATSKNF and loyalist gear.

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 Gargantuan wrote:
C:CSM is the best codex for Iron Warriors. Why would you use something else?
Iron Warriors don't have ATSKNF and loyalist gear.

They also don't have flying robot daemons, wizards and a bunch of other stuff that's in the C:CSM codex.

And why not ATSKNF? They've always been one of the most disciplined marine legions.
   
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Bearing Words in Rugby

They use the Chaos Gods as tools, and they also occasionally use cult troops, demon weaponry, daemonic pacts etc.. So, in my opinon, C:CSM is the only way forward if you're making an IW 'dex.. Either that or make an IW Fandex like me

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 Gargantuan wrote:
C:CSM is the best codex for Iron Warriors. Why would you use something else?

Iron Warriors don't have ATSKNF and loyalist gear.


I second this. Iron Warriors are one of the easier legions to emulate using C:CSM. Warpsmiths are better and more suited to the army then the base C:SM techmarine or MotF. While you may not think they would use the any of the daemon engines, I completely disagree, the Forgefiend and Defiler in particular make great heavy weapons platforms. Veterans of the Long War fits the Iron Warriors better than ATSKNF, as they are a particularly bitter and hateful lot.

Alot of people tend to downplay the Chaos elements of the Iron Warriors because they don't follow just one god, but that doesn't make them any less devoted. Their Primarch is a daemon prince and their current Warsmith (Honsou) is a daemon prince. That's not going to happen unless the legion fully embraces Chaos. Heck, they are one of the main supporters of the Obliterator cult, and you think they wouldn't go for daemon engines?

   
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Infiltrating Broodlord





Well from what I remember correctly, isn't Warsmith Koro fortifying the Hadex anomaly while being in an allience with the Dark Mechanicus and using their Daemon Engines?

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Boston, MA

Iron Warriors don't like mutation, but they don't seem to have a problem utilizing daemon engines. They wouldn't get newer variants of Land Raiders or things like the Thunderfire Cannon, and the Chaos Marines codex already has everything they could or would reasonably use. If you used Codex: Space Marines to represent them, you'd basically just be limiting the amount of stuff you can take for them. In other words, you've already got a good codex for the army with Chaos Space Marines, so stick with it.

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