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Here's my theory on what happened to at least one of the lost legions

The emperor is going through in the beginning years of the crusades and he has found all of his sons doodoodoo time passing then one of the lost primarchs does something against the emperor so the emperor asks for the help of the mechanicum to help him and to keep this quiet during the battle the mechanicum manage to kill the primarchs and several of the astartes oh boy quite the challenge towards the end of the battling the emperor goes to where they were fighting and the astartes surrender to this all mighty being. For helping the emperor he takes these astartes and gives them to the mechanicum with their memories wiped. Being given to the mechanicum they are given new memories and their bodies are taken completely to the robotic faction.

Later in history these mechanicum ex astartes felt that they should help out the other betraying astartes in the heresy due to hidden memory feeling like instincts. They are the original heretics

Ta da and those are my thoughts what do you think

I had to read that a few times, and I'm still not sure I get it. Try cutting down your sentences a little, use a comma or two, and put more explanation in.

From what I gather, you're suggesting that, after all the Primarchs had been found, one of the two lost Primarchs slights the Emperor in some way. He then proceeds, with the help of the Mechanicum, to eliminate this Primarch and part of his legion, am I right so far?
Then you claim that the remaining Astartes were given to the Mechanicum, but what for, as servitors, slaves, Skitarii? I don't see them being allowed to live if the Emperor ordered their destruction.
Now, as for these mind wiped Astartes 'remembering' to help the traitors, that couldn't happen. Once mind wiped, and if, like you implied, turned into a servitor, you have no memory, no conscience, no higher patterns of thought beyond the will of your masters. The traitors already had help on Mars anyway, in the form of Kelbor-Hal, the Fabricator General, and his followers.

The lost legions were expunged for reasons unknown, all we do know is that the other Primarchs fear sharing their fate, and that all were forbidden to talk of them. We do not know if Russ killed one, and the Ultramarines did not absorb one, before anyone claims these as facts.

It is hinted heavily that Russ wiped out at least one of the lost legions.
That said what GW hints at and what happened are different things entirely...

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:

Then you claim that the remaining Astartes were given to the Mechanicum, but what for, as servitors, slaves, Skitarii? I don't see them being allowed to live if the Emperor ordered their destruction.
Now, as for these mind wiped Astartes 'remembering' to help the traitors, that couldn't happen. Once mind wiped, and if, like you implied, turned into a servitor, you have no memory, no conscience, no higher patterns of thought beyond the will of your masters. The traitors already had help on Mars anyway, in the form of Kelbor-Hal, the Fabricator General, and his followers.

What I mean by this is that there bodies were replaced with machine parts so that they could work on ships and what not for the other legions
Also I said that the mechanicum gave them new memories
And to be slaves in essence is quite a fear for a primarch and what is a skitarii


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 Uial-Ras wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:

Then you claim that the remaining Astartes were given to the Mechanicum, but what for, as servitors, slaves, Skitarii? I don't see them being allowed to live if the Emperor ordered their destruction.
Now, as for these mind wiped Astartes 'remembering' to help the traitors, that couldn't happen. Once mind wiped, and if, like you implied, turned into a servitor, you have no memory, no conscience, no higher patterns of thought beyond the will of your masters. The traitors already had help on Mars anyway, in the form of Kelbor-Hal, the Fabricator General, and his followers.

What I mean by this is that there bodies were replaced with machine parts so that they could work on ships and what not for the other legions
Also I said that the mechanicum gave them new memories

That pretty much describes a servitor

And to be slaves in essence is quite a fear for a primarch and what is a skitarii

They are the soldiers of the Adeptus Mechanicus, they act as armies and body guards Info.

Don't worry about the punctuation, just take more care next time.

Why use traitorous Space Marines as servitors when you could just use heretics? Besides, Chaos Space Marines are tainted and, as such, are immediately burned, there'd be none left to turn into robots, and when you're mind-wiped by the Imperium, they don't leave random gak hanging around, they do it good and proper, you may as well be lobotomised as far as the Imperium is concerned, so yeah.. And, Skitarii are basically little spider robots with flamers, boltguns, plasma guns, whatever you want to whack on them, they then go and kill gak, it's what they're good at


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ALSO, how the faq does the Mechanicum kill the Primarchs, Primarchs can call upon Space Marine Legions.. And, which one did they kill?? They essentially all killed eachother, got assassinated, trapped in paintings, went for an evening stroll in the warp or turned into Demon Princes (OR ARE TOTALLY NOT BURIED UNDER A GIANT FORTRESS ON THEIR HOMEWORLD *COUGH* LION EL JOHNSON *COUGH*). HERESY! *BLAM*.. Anyway xD Yeah, they all seem to have been accounted for themselves, and, who wants to be turned into a Servitor as a reward?? It's like saying: Well done in Vietnam, now we're going to mindwipe you, and then turn you into a robot that serves us (Y)

Well since you asked, I think your theory is 100% incorrect and kind of difficul t to read.

Brother of bone if you were to notice this forum is concerning either the 2nd or the 11th

And on the killing of the primarch just luck lots and lots of luck

Its been strongly hinted that (at least) one of the missing legions was wiped out for being genetically....unstable. In fact i remember reading somewhere that Sanguinius slightly hid the amount of genetic aberance inherent to his gene-seed so that his legion would not meet the same fate as that of one of his lost brother's.

It is also strongly hinted that many of the survivors from one (or both) of the purged legions may have been inducted into the Ultramarines Legion, thereby also seemingly explaining why the Ultramarines were one of the larger (if not the largest) legions at the time of the Heresy.

purplefood wrote:It is hinted heavily that Russ wiped out at least one of the lost legions.
That said what GW hints at and what happened are different things entirely...

It looks like it was actually the World Eaters Russ had fought, rather than a missing Legion.

greg0985 wrote:
It is also strongly hinted that many of the survivors from one (or both) of the purged legions may have been inducted into the Ultramarines Legion, thereby also seemingly explaining why the Ultramarines were one of the larger (if not the largest) legions at the time of the Heresy.

The Ultramarines were the largest because of the size of Ultramar and Guilliman's own abilities.
The author of said hint debunked it as false and baseless speculation on the part of the Word Bearer.

again just a rumor, but i had always heard that the 2nd and 11th legion originally betrayed the big E, then did some sort of redeeming act to win his forgiveness.

The big E forgave them but still had to kill them, so their reward/punishment was to removed from history, not to be known as loyalest nor traitor.

 Backspacehacker wrote:
again just a rumor, but i had always heard that the 2nd and 11th legion originally betrayed the big E, then did some sort of redeeming act to win his forgiveness.

The big E forgave them but still had to kill them, so their reward/punishment was to removed from history, not to be known as loyalest nor traitor.

That was something similar to what a designer previously mentioned apparently; it was an act similar to what romans would do or somesuch - someone mentioned it on a Missing Primarchs thread a little while ago.