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2013/05/12 21:09:56
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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Just something i was thinking about yesterday, has there in 40k lore, a CSM that has tried or has gone back to being a loyalist Marine?
Could they even or would they be insta-killed?
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2013/05/12 21:20:44
Subject: Re:Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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If any it was Sevatar.
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Like the great storm of the Horus Heresy, the forces of the True Gods will descend upon the Emperor's minions. The stars will tremble at their passage and the mighty armadas of the Warmaster Abaddon will bring annihilation to a hundred worlds. Know this, for these things will come to pass. |
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2013/05/12 21:41:10
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Depends on what you mean by CSM. Renegade Marines can return to Imperial service if they're discreet enough. There's a bit in the Deathwatch RPG about Blackshields (I believe that was the name), Marines who serve in the Deathwatch without revealing their Chapter or their history. It implies that it's a way for an excommunicate Marine to return quietly to the Imperium, though I think they typically serve out the rest of their life in the Deathwatch.
However, if the Marine has actually been tainted by the Ruinous Powers, I think they're pretty much screwed. Not only would the Imperium not accept them, they wouldn't be able to serve it loyally even if they wanted to because their corruption allows the relevant Chaos God to control their actions at times.
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2013/05/12 21:45:41
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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The Lion
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts 
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2013/05/12 22:00:01
Subject: Re:Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/05/12 22:56:19
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
Isstvan III
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Alpharius might have never left at all.
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"When the traitor's hand strikes, it strikes with the strength of a Legion."
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2013/05/12 22:57:23
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Possibly same with Cypher  Who knows...
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2013/05/12 23:29:16
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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Alpharius left the Emperor's sight. He killed loyal astartes and fought on the side of the forces that ended up killing the Emperor's mortal body. That isn't really up for debate either... the omniscient narration of Legion and the other novels makes it clear enough that Allpharius and the Alpha Legion was actively working against the loyalist legions, their reasons be damned.
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2013/05/12 23:34:01
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Agile Revenant Titan
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BlaxicanX wrote:Alpharius left the Emperor's sight. He killed loyal astartes and fought on the side of the forces that ended up killing the Emperor's mortal body. That isn't really up for debate either... the omniscient narration of Legion and the other novels makes it clear enough that Allpharius and the Alpha Legion was actively working against the loyalist legions, their reasons be damned.
Or was that Omegon?
Iranna.
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2013/05/12 23:52:35
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Norn Queen
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BlaxicanX wrote:Alpharius left the Emperor's sight. He killed loyal astartes and fought on the side of the forces that ended up killing the Emperor's mortal body. That isn't really up for debate either... the omniscient narration of Legion and the other novels makes it clear enough that Allpharius and the Alpha Legion was actively working against the loyalist legions, their reasons be damned.
Against the loyal legions, yes. But for the Emperor and humanity.
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2013/05/13 00:00:53
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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I think in the DA books (codex) some of the fallen have repented and tried to make amends by rejoining imperial society and using their abilities of leadership and martial prowess to promote the IoM. At least until the DA catch up to them, then its off to the torture chamber.
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2013/05/13 01:22:34
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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 Iranna wrote:BlaxicanX wrote:Alpharius left the Emperor's sight. He killed loyal astartes and fought on the side of the forces that ended up killing the Emperor's mortal body. That isn't really up for debate either... the omniscient narration of Legion and the other novels makes it clear enough that Allpharius and the Alpha Legion was actively working against the loyalist legions, their reasons be damned.
Or was that Omegon? Iranna.
The omniscient narrator says they both did.  -Loki- wrote: Against the loyal legions, yes. But for the Emperor and humanity.
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2013/05/13 01:33:17
Subject: Re:Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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Well, there's the Soul Drinkers. The unwittingly fell to Chaos, and then renounced it to continue fighting for humanity, although not expressly for the Imperium.
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2013/05/13 10:39:43
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
Massachusetts
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-Loki- wrote:BlaxicanX wrote:Alpharius left the Emperor's sight. He killed loyal astartes and fought on the side of the forces that ended up killing the Emperor's mortal body. That isn't really up for debate either... the omniscient narration of Legion and the other novels makes it clear enough that Allpharius and the Alpha Legion was actively working against the loyalist legions, their reasons be damned.
Against the loyal legions, yes. But for the Emperor and humanity.
And Magnus used his sorcery for the Emperor and humanity when warning of Horus' betrayal, we all saw how that worked out. It doesn't matter what Alpharius' intentions were, the Emperor is rarely depicted as a forgiving person so Alpharius is a traitor.
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2013/05/13 10:58:09
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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I read a short story in one of the old anthologies about a Dark Angel who got stranded in space before the heresy and floated around in Stasis for a long time and woke up in the eye of terror where he met one of the Fallen who told him that Horus had won and the emperor was dead, so consequently he dedicated himself to Khorne.
Afterwards he realised his mistake and tried to rejoin the DA but I think they just executed him.
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2013/05/13 11:00:58
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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King Pyrrhus wrote:I read a short story in one of the old anthologies about a Dark Angel who got stranded in space before the heresy and floated around in Stasis for a long time and woke up in the eye of terror where he met one of the Fallen who told him that Horus had won and the emperor was dead, so consequently he dedicated himself to Khorne.
Afterwards he realised his mistake and tried to rejoin the DA but I think they just executed him.
#daysyouwishyoudstayedinbed
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2013/05/13 12:12:20
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Not exactly a CSM rejoining his chapter, but I remember, years ago, reading a short strory where a daemon tried to corrupt a Space Marine and a Sister of Battle. The Sister resisted, while the Marine fell and went on to be a feared Chaos champion. Years later, the Inquisition had the Sister (now a Canoness, or some other high rank) seek out the Marine and try to make him repent. She successfully made him see the error of his ways and I think he blew himself up.
Like said, I read it a long time ago, but that was the basic plot. A few details could be incorrect.
Edit: Ah, it was called Daemonblood.
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Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far. |
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2013/05/13 15:45:47
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Screaming Shining Spear
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I'm not aware of any known ones, but I am REALLY hoping that Cypher is the first.
Love his story, and a fitting end would be to bring some of The Fallen back to the Imperial fold.
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2013/05/13 15:59:52
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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I love Cypher too, and I just hope that the rumours of him reappearing in an allies codex at some point are true.
It's a real shame he didn't make the cut for Dark Vengeance or the CSM codex.
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2013/05/13 16:03:38
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
Eboli, Italy
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King Pyrrhus wrote:I love Cypher too, and I just hope that the rumours of him reappearing in an allies codex at some point are true.
It's a real shame he didn't make the cut for Dark Vengeance or the CSM codex.
Well, Cy is a mysterious dude. No one knows if he works for KAYOSS or for the EMPRAH. The GW site suggest to use what you want, the CSM or DA codex. The problem is: you must use a Captain/Chaos Lord profile... so, yeah, not enough for a badass like him.
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The wolves are back! *feral howl* 
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2013/05/13 16:53:58
Subject: Re:Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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Karnulon, a sorcerer from the Word Bearers, turned his back on the dark gods and destroyed a prized daemon world of theirs.
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 amanita wrote:So dare I ask what happens if he farts? Could it blow the seals on the lower portion of his armor? Or is a space marine's system immune to such mundane fluctuations of bodily conduct?
 Moktor wrote:No one should be complaining about this codex. It gave regular Eldar a much needed buff by allowing us to drop Fire Dragons and D-Scythe Wraithguard wherever we want, without scatter. Without this, I almost lost a game once. It was scary. I almost took to buying fixed dice to ensure it never happened again.
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2013/05/13 17:00:21
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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King Pyrrhus wrote:I read a short story in one of the old anthologies about a Dark Angel who got stranded in space before the heresy and floated around in Stasis for a long time and woke up in the eye of terror where he met one of the Fallen who told him that Horus had won and the emperor was dead, so consequently he dedicated himself to Khorne.
Afterwards he realised his mistake and tried to rejoin the DA but I think they just executed him.
I think I read this same story, eventually the Angels take him back to the rock and I think he doesn't get tortured they just execute him because he autorepents... but I could have sworn in that same story a Fallen is tortured, repents, and then somehow ends up back on the Angels side... but that was many years and many ounces (liquid and non-liquid varieties if you catch my drift) ago, so I'm probably wrong.
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2013/05/13 17:13:28
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
Ashburnham, Massachusetts
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Clint Langley's Hammer of Daemons might be the closet tale that I can remember that touches on the subject .
Without giving away any spoilers, the story is about a Grey Knight who pushes the envelope of loyality.
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2013/06/21 03:13:36
Subject: Has there been a CSM that went back to the Emperor
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds
in ur cumputer stealing ur internetz
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The Newborn and Aarderik Vanes both repented before dying and did fight alongside the ultramarines, albiet breifly.
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