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List for Plague Marine CSM units.

Comments Welcome.

Looks pretty nice.

I like it, looks good so far, but I would like more unique nurgle units, it kinda feels incomplete as a codex. Would not have any problem playing any of the units right now as well, but would have to playtest them to give an accurate review though

Toxium wrote:
List for Plague Marine CSM units.

Comments Welcome.

Terminator armor granting shrouding(cloud of flies) is too powerful for no points. Shrouding confers from an IC to his unit, so adding a model with cloud of flies is going to give said unit +2 to it's cover save, which is huge.

Plauge Blade only 10 points, while a power sword is 15 points?

Plague bikers are way too good. A normal CSM biker with MoN is 26 points IIRC. On top of that they get FNP, Fearless, Blight Grenades, and a Plague Knife for 4 points?


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 Exergy wrote:

Toxium wrote:
List for Plague Marine CSM units.

Comments Welcome.

Plague bikers are way too good. A normal CSM biker with MoN is 26 points IIRC. On top of that they get FNP, Fearless, Blight Grenades, and a Plague Knife for 4 points?

They also get 2+ saves for no real reason. totally OP

Cloud of Flies isn't shrouding, it's defensive grenades. I also do not see where the bikes are getting 2+ saves. Though I do agree the points should be bumped up, probably to the 35-37ish area.

I'll try to come up with something unique to give the list some more flavor.

Here's a Heavy Support choice.

I figure without Helldrakes they could use an option for flyers.

Let me know what you think.

Toxium wrote:
Cloud of Flies isn't shrouding, it's defensive grenades. I also do not see where the bikes are getting 2+ saves. Though I do agree the points should be bumped up, probably to the 35-37ish area.

I'll try to come up with something unique to give the list some more flavor.

i thought blight grenades were defensive grenades. Should be kept consistent.

Correct me if I am wrong but it looks like you have made Cloud of Flies defensive grenades to get around the fact that Terminators can't have Blight Grenades.

Also as others have said why do the Bikes have 2+ saves?

I think the points on the Terminators are ok but the Plague Blades and Bikes need to be more.

I like the concept of the Plague Wind but I think it could do with higher armour (predator/vindicator levels) and a shorter range (48"?) with a higher points cost, I would say around 130.

The Ravage Rockets could also do with a higher strength to be a credible threat to fliers.

Also remember the plague drone, its an exclusive Nurgle flyer that looks ace.

Do these Plague terminators have FNP at long last? Because I'm sick of every chaos dex not having cult terminators.

 rohansoldier wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but it looks like you have made Cloud of Flies defensive grenades to get around the fact that Terminators can't have Blight Grenades.

Correct

 rohansoldier wrote:
Also as others have said why do the Bikes have 2+ saves?

OOPS. Now I see what you guys are talking about. I copied my terminator entry when making the bike entry and forgot to adjust the saves back to 3+. Sorry about that.

 rohansoldier wrote:
I think the points on the Terminators are ok but the Plague Blades and Bikes need to be more.

I agree that I have to adjust the bike's cost. I'll probably adjust the Plague Blade to 15 points, but no more. The cost of the poison is baked into the base cost of the models themselves.

 rohansoldier wrote:
I like the concept of the Plague Wind but I think it could do with higher armour (predator/vindicator levels) and a shorter range (48"?) with a higher points cost, I would say around 130.

I don't know if the idea of a long rage support vehicle really needs higher armour.

 rohansoldier wrote:
The Ravage Rockets could also do with a higher strength to be a credible threat to fliers.

Average roll on 2D6 is 7. At S5 this results in glancing hits most of the time on fliers, but it slightly weaker when aimed at tougher ground units. Which is the effect I was looking for.