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This has been bothering me for a little while and after finally trying to compare the two images of the different selections and not being able to decipher any differences, I turn to you guys. I'm figuring this has something to do with the fact that I don't play and therefor know very little about 40k, and I'm just not noticing something as a result.

But what exactly is the difference between these two classifications on the Forgeworld site?


   
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The helmets, one has a nose bridge the other has a straight slit eye visor. That's pretty much the only difference. I believe they say something about upgraded power supplies a more armored helmet and some other such things.
   
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Don't they both have straight slit eye visors? These pictures probably show it better.
Edit: Perhaps it's just the legs? There are a couple in running position that are standing on the opposite leg as compared to the non-legion ones. I only even noticed that after realizing the url had "legarm" in it


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Its the icon/lack of icon on the belt methinks.

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I looked at both entries on the forgeworld site and can't see a real difference. Maybe it's just something because of the horus heresy line of them.

the mkII armor models existed before forgeworld started the horus heresy line and maybe they added those as legion set just to make sure that they also can be used for that but kept the old entry for the non-heresy stuff.

   
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Different poses is the only real difference i can see. The kits work well in a mixed unit together

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 btldoomhammer wrote:
I looked at both entries on the forgeworld site and can't see a real difference. Maybe it's just something because of the horus heresy line of them.

the mkII armor models existed before forgeworld started the horus heresy line and maybe they added those as legion set just to make sure that they also can be used for that but kept the old entry for the non-heresy stuff.


As i said previously, its the belt buckle area, 'Space Marine' mk II has an aquilla embossed onto the figure, while the legion mk II does not, it has a smooth plate instead, presumably so it suits being Chaos or Imperials, Mk3 iron armour and legion mk3 have a similar difference with emblems on the chest plates.

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HairySticks wrote:


As i said previously, its the belt buckle area, 'Space Marine' mk II has an aquilla embossed onto the figure, while the legion mk II does not, it has a smooth plate instead, presumably so it suits being Chaos or Imperials, Mk3 iron armour and legion mk3 have a similar difference with emblems on the chest plates.


We are talking about these two sets right?
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/LEGION_MKII_CRUSADE_ARMOUR.html
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Space_Marines/Space_Marine-Infantry-and-Accessories/MK-II-CRUSADE-ARMOUR.html

Because i either need my eyes checked or they both have aquilla belt buckles. Have you seen them personally? Because pictures on both sets i linked have the belt buckle. Have i looked at the wrong items or is there a wrong picture on the forgeworld site?

   
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I think they just allow you to make different poses.

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I'm seeing the aquilla as well, so I'm just going to stick with the idea that it's poses. Especially since it's indicated in the URL of the Legion pictures.
   
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appologies its the MkIII iron and crusade armours that have icon's on the chest plate vs no icons on chest plate.
I've just looked at FW's site and they use the exact same image for MKII legion and crusade versions... leading me to beleive theyre the exact same armour variants in different poses as others have said;
Legion version seems to hvae the guys holding the boltguns much higher up, as if aiming along iron sights and such, while crusade version looks more at ease.. then again that could just be the way theyre were built.

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the other thing that seems to jump out at me, (i'm lazy, so i didn't follow through with the website about the LEgion Mk2 bit), is that MK2 crusade armor is literally just the armor, whereas the legion Mk2 kit also comes with the weapons. Doublecheck the fine-print.

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 poda_t wrote:
the other thing that seems to jump out at me, (i'm lazy, so i didn't follow through with the website about the LEgion Mk2 bit), is that MK2 crusade armor is literally just the armor, whereas the legion Mk2 kit also comes with the weapons. Doublecheck the fine-print.


Nope. Neither comes with weapons. Unless you're buying the squad packs of Legion MkII instead of the basic 5 man packs.
   
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 Buttlerthepug wrote:

But what exactly is the difference between these two classifications on the Forgeworld site?

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HairySticks wrote:

Legion version seems to hvae the guys holding the boltguns much higher up, as if aiming along iron sights and such, while crusade version looks more at ease.. then again that could just be the way theyre were built.



I took a second look at those pictures and you are right. The legion set comes with a higher variation in arm poses and few different posed legs. If you look at the pictures in the first post (or the spoilor tag) you'll notice that in the second picture the forth marine from the left has an arm pose that can't be a result of just different assembly.
Also if you look at the fifth guy you'll notice that he stands on his toes with one leg. But non of the legs in the first picture have a similar toe-bent pose.

To cut a long story short the normal set has uniform arm poses while the legion set comes with a few varying arm poses and some new leg poses.

   
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