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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/30 03:04:20
Subject: High Elf Question: Charmed Shield plus Golden Crown of Altrazar
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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Both items give a 2+ ward for the first hit/wound. If I took both, would I have to use them both on the first wound? Or could I theoretically use one for the first wound and another for the second wound?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/30 04:43:00
Subject: High Elf Question: Charmed Shield plus Golden Crown of Altrazar
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Well hit is different then wound. I don't exactly remember how the high elf item is worded but I'm sure you can use both.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/30 04:57:46
Subject: High Elf Question: Charmed Shield plus Golden Crown of Altrazar
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Charmed shield works on first hit.
Crown works on first WOUNDING hit.
So they would both stack as I see it. Because if you're hit by an attack, first thing you do is roll for charmed. If it fails, you roll to wound. If that succeed Crown takes over. If Charmed succeeded, the hit didn't wound so crown wouldn't have been used.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/30 08:14:20
Subject: High Elf Question: Charmed Shield plus Golden Crown of Altrazar
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Killer Klaivex
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DukeRustfield wrote:Charmed shield works on first hit.
Crown works on first WOUNDING hit.
So they would both stack as I see it. Because if you're hit by an attack, first thing you do is roll for charmed. If it fails, you roll to wound. If that succeed Crown takes over. If Charmed succeeded, the hit didn't wound so crown wouldn't have been used.
This.
If you're using the charmed shield, be prepared to yell "STOP" at your opponent after he makes his to hit rolls. You must take the charmed shield effect before he rolls to wound; as you are discounting a hit, not a wounding hit. If you don't randomize before your opponent rolls to wound, be sure to randomize the shield effect between all hits, not just those hits than wounded.
If your opponent has poisoned attacks, you'll need to have him roll his attacks one at a time (or randomize which hit the shield goes against).
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/01 00:21:36
Subject: High Elf Question: Charmed Shield plus Golden Crown of Altrazar
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Huge Bone Giant
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Aren't attacks at the same initiative simultaneous?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/01 00:31:43
Subject: High Elf Question: Charmed Shield plus Golden Crown of Altrazar
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If they were they would be no first. Just pick one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/01 03:23:05
Subject: High Elf Question: Charmed Shield plus Golden Crown of Altrazar
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
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The question pre-exists for anyone as Opal Amulet & Charmed Shield.
Golden Crown is just a cheaper and better version of the Opal Amulet. DukeRustfield echoes the existing answer. Golden Crown and Opal Amulet would be a conundrum, but thankfully they are both Talismans and cannot therefore stack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/01 07:42:38
Subject: High Elf Question: Charmed Shield plus Golden Crown of Altrazar
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Some of the time.
If I have 4 wounds, you have heroic killing blow. We are in a challenge, you hit me 3 times, and wound 3 times. I have no saves. One of those hits is heroic killing blow.
How much combat resolution do you do?
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/01 18:51:57
Subject: High Elf Question: Charmed Shield plus Golden Crown of Altrazar
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Huge Bone Giant
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Order of operations covers simultaneous, no?
Person whose turn it is. . .
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